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I know I'm quite late, but is there some space for me to join? I've been trying to do one of these for ages, but the few ones I've been in kinda died very quickly. Sure, you can make the teams even :) you'll be Team 1. What's your migration route so I can mark it on the map? Nice! I'll take the are...

I know I'm quite late, but is there some space for me to join? I've been trying to do one of these for ages, but the few ones I've been in kinda died very quickly.

The triconsonantal nature of Vrkhazhian is a rather recent development, having developed before Proto-Vrkhazhian. The present phonology occurs after Proto-Vrkhazhian. As for sound changes, I got Sangi to work them out a while ago, and you can see the family tree at the top of the wiki in the inform...

Xephyr wrote:Acid Badger hasn't posted since August. I say we just let Nannalu take the next round.

I'm still lurking, I totally forgot about this thread though. Birdlang got it right, it was South Efate.

R.Rusanov wrote:

Click wrote: I know regressive assimilations are more common, but is it plausible for a nasal to assimilate in place to an obstruent on its left, as in [tm] → [tn]?

Danish had Copenhagen > Koebmhaun so I would say it can happen.

That's also what happens in German: /pən tən kən/ > [pm̩ tn̩ kŋ̩]

If you want completely nonsensical changes resulting in velar stops, then you can try /sw/ > /k/. It's attested in Armenian (though the result was /kʰ/). I guess /zw/ if its possible could get you /g/ by analogy. It's not nonsensical if you don't just pull out one particular change without context....

It's not Anejom̃ but it is spoken on Efate.

Is that the actual orthography, or IPA transcription? (I'm used to seeing <q> or <p̃> for the labial-velar stop for languages in Vanuatu -- then again, if it were IPA I'd expect it to be marked as rounded unless it's particularly broad.) It's a broad transcription. To be honest, I just couldn't typ...

CatDoom wrote:Is it Yélî Dnye? A bit of a shot in the dark, but it looks like it has some odd co-articulation going on.

It does but it's not Yélî Dnye.

Nortaneous wrote:Spoken in Vanuatu?

Yes

Well then

Akit tanru tok me selwan kineu afla mat. Tete naliati aŋ kin kpafo tankiwou. Me kpafo to mai leperkat emat niŋneu. Ifwel kuf lek tete nkas iftom emat niŋneu kpatap ŋmokus mau. Me kpaleperkati panpan ketau.

Looks like some weird transcription of Chechen

cromulant wrote:Strange things happen in the Amazon...

What I always wonder though is whether such strange inventories come into existence because of gaps in the available data. The better studied languages down there look much more sane, and even some analyses of Pirahã's inventory don't look that weird.

Mesoamerican?

What Ossetian change are we talking about here though? The only vaguely similar change in Ossetian I can think of is ku > kʷɨ in Iron Ossetian, together with a broader u > ɨ change.

They also mistook Latvia for Lithuania and the other way round.

Chipotle Plosives: /p t k/ <p t k> Nasals: /m n/ <m n> Fricatives: /ɸ s x ɣ/ <f s h g> Affricates: /ts ps ks/ <ts ps ks> Vowels: /a æ ø ə i ɤ u ʊ j w/ <a e ö ă i ŏ u o y w> or <a e ö ã i õ u o y w> - The vowels are very weird though. Long vowels are doubled. Papan tetem kökös mănă fisihŏgu tsoopsaj...

Guma inakenahima [inakɘnahima] April [ˌʔɪ̃lʌgʌɾʌˈhĩɰʌ]

Azunan im [ỹ] → Hoavi vuin [ˈβɨ̃ɪ̯]

Proto-Eastern kus·ath ['kusʔatʰ] April kóoˀsat [ˈgʷʊːʔsətʰ]

Nortaneous wrote:Cherun tlkainuva [tɬɪ̆kaːi̯nɯɸʷæ]

Hoavi kikkainuve [kʰɪ̥ˈʰkɑɪ̯nɨβɛ]

(I quite like having /y/ without a mid rounded vowel, but not sure if there's any precedent.) Attic Greek. Does have /o/. (Note that I didn't specify "front".) Oops. I missed that you didn't specify "front". But I think I have seen a phonology of a Daghestanian language (can't remember which one) w...

I seriously doubt this. If this were truth, we'd see a crapload of monoconsonantal roots in Egyptian Arabic, and ergativity in Armenian; Mongolian would be monosyllabic, and Manchu would lose cases. Since you're mentioning Armenian, modern Eastern Armenian does show some grammatical features that C...

Elector Dark wrote:Vágtázó Csodaszarvas - Napkapu

Got hard ;,,,;

I love them! I have their album, it's quite good.



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8Deer wrote:Now I wonder, are there languages with aspirated consonants that lack /h/?

Sinjana wrote:Standard PRC Mandarin is a counterexample. It has aspirated consonants, but no [h].

Solarius wrote:Mandarin.

Feles wrote:Mandarin.

Has anyone mentioned Mandarin yet?