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by Whimemsz
Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:44 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: English definition of "song"
Replies: 14
Views: 3282

Re: English definition of "song"

From the perspective of someone who knows nothing about music: for me, "song" can mean any piece of music. Of course I mostly associate it with a piece with singing.
by Whimemsz
Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:19 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Beginner Linguistics Resources
Replies: 15
Views: 3882

Re: Beginner Linguistics Resources

Thomas Payne's Describing Morphosyntax is excellent for learning some of the different morphosyntactic strategies and categories that can be found in various languages. I'm less well-equipped to suggest books on contemporary theories--most recent introductory textbooks will probably have some helpfu...
by Whimemsz
Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:03 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: non-rootword morphemes origin resources?
Replies: 1
Views: 1156

Re: non-rootword morphemes origin resources?

What you're asking about is basically grammaticalization -- the evolution of lexical words into grammatical markers, and separate grammatical markers into bound grammatical morphemes (clitics and affixes). So I'd suggest searching with that keyword (as well as its variants, grammaticization , gramma...
by Whimemsz
Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:42 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Mutual intelligibility of American, British, Australian Eng.
Replies: 15
Views: 4474

Re: Mutual intelligibility of American, British, Australian

To some extent I think English is becoming more homogeneous because of TV and Internet. How many bits of "American" vocabulary and pronunciations patterns have I adopted because of the media and pop culture? Probably more than my parents, and them, more than their parents. Modern media is facilitat...
by Whimemsz
Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:58 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Hunter-gatherer languages
Replies: 25
Views: 6849

Re: Hunter-gatherer languages

I vaguely recall reading a paper (I think written or co-written by Johanna Nichols) that argued that different types of society had different grammatical features. It didn't say anything Wholfian, though, but claimed (and this is all from memory, it could be all different than I remember) that 1) l...
by Whimemsz
Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:35 am
Forum: Almea
Topic: Almean Industrial Revolution... and imperialism?
Replies: 20
Views: 8578

Re: Almean Industrial Revolution... and imperialism?

Almea is blessed; while Earth was dominated by Christianity, Erelae society is basically founded on 4 distinct religions that exclude pretty much each other : Endajué, Paganism, Eled'at and Jippirasti. Because of that, there is no unity in the Erelaean sphere; Christian factions could hate each oth...
by Whimemsz
Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:21 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Hunter-gatherer languages
Replies: 25
Views: 6849

Re: Hunter-gatherer languages

Pirahã... well, I've always been skeptical about that. At uni a few of us found a paper by Everett and had a look through, and found that it was very contradictory. In fact an example sentence was used that glossed a word as "two", which sort of refutes their whole point. Well, in the numbers/maths...
by Whimemsz
Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:52 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Underappreciated words
Replies: 21
Views: 4359

Re: Underappreciated words

Drydic Guy wrote:Whoreson is an utterly awesome insult and leaves its targets dazed and staggering.
totally
by Whimemsz
Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:05 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Hunter-gatherer languages
Replies: 25
Views: 6849

Re: Hunter-gatherer languages

The short answer to your question is no, there are not. This, basically. Besides, why would a hunter gatherer society place any less of an importance on animals than an agricultural society? Hunter gatherers depend on animals to survive too (or at least they believe they do, even in cases where fro...
by Whimemsz
Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:16 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Underappreciated words
Replies: 21
Views: 4359

Re: Underappreciated words

Whoreson. I wish it were still a common insult. Though I guess the rarity and quaintness is part of what makes it a good word?
by Whimemsz
Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:03 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
Replies: 812
Views: 205294

Re: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2

Thanks to pthag for bringing this gem to my attention: http://originofalphabet.quora.com/Females-are-all-over-language "Prostitute" has the word "tit" in it ... Words that begin with "pro" are all active. A "proton" is positive: it is the unit that signifies position on the periodic table. "Proto" i...
by Whimemsz
Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:07 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: The Correspondence Library
Replies: 568
Views: 286591

Re: The Correspondence Library

Proto-Algonquian > Menominee From Hockett, C. F. (1981). “The Phonological History of Menominee.” Anthropological Linguistics 23 (2): 51-87; and Miner, Kenneth L. (1979). “Theoretical Implications of the Great Menominee Vowel Shift.” Kansas Working Papers in Linguistics 4 (1): 7-25. The two papers ...
by Whimemsz
Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:13 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: CALS vs WALS: Part 2 - Nouns
Replies: 18
Views: 4639

Re: CALS vs WALS: Part 2 - Nouns

This is very interesting, thanks for doing this. (I am happy to see that Hikóómayíi seems to be much more WALSy than CALSy).

Why on earth are natlangs listed on CALS? That doesn't make any sense :\
by Whimemsz
Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:57 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Quadripartite morphosyntactic alignment
Replies: 38
Views: 9323

Re: Quadripartite morphosyntactic alignment

KathAveara wrote:Allowing all verbs other than the copula to take exactly one argument. This argument can be used by any number of verbs.
But that's...nothing at all like the system baradsoron has described...
by Whimemsz
Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:28 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!
Replies: 203
Views: 50581

Re: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!

I am a little disappointed no one ever brought up Algonquian languages! They have a pervasive animate/inanimate distinction, proximate/obviative distinction, and direct/inverse alignment. In my experience other languages and families described as having direct/inverse alignment and/or a proximate/ob...
by Whimemsz
Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:44 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 417519

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

linguoboy wrote:Heard someone the other day say "flea" for "flea market", i.e. "It's one of the best fleas around."
I totally approve of this development and am going to start using it whenever possible, because it sounds hilarious.
by Whimemsz
Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:04 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 417519

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Plus, what would we do without this beautiful example of an inflectional suffix reanalyzed as a clitic? Doesn't English -'s come from the Old English genitive singular? Yes, it's one of the few famous examples (afaik--maybe it's just one of the most-cited examples, idk) of affix > clitic developmen...
by Whimemsz
Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:54 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Quadripartite morphosyntactic alignment
Replies: 38
Views: 9323

Re: Quadripartite morphosyntactic alignment

He gave me a book, I was given a book by him. No "a book was given to me". Well, that means your language would be quite the outlier among natlangs. As I said, you'll find passives for the direct object "a book (kiss, handshake, gift) was given" much more frequently in natlangs than passives for th...
by Whimemsz
Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Quadripartite morphosyntactic alignment
Replies: 38
Views: 9323

Re: Quadripartite morphosyntactic alignment

Do you mean that passives use a fifth set of pronominal markers? Or is the "passive" set the same as one of the four other sets? In either case, in terms of plausibility, I'd say this sounds quite unlikely though not totally impossible. There's only a small handful of natural languages that are even...
by Whimemsz
Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:18 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: sources for person & number agreement
Replies: 62
Views: 11248

Re: sources for person & number agreement

In English I've only seen this when one is going for a 'retarded' effect ( u mad?) or in this special 'adjoined' clause type (she rushed at him, her hair dishevelled.) In normal spoken English this actually isn't uncommon at all with questions. "You mad?" is very natural (in fact, I'm sure I say it...
by Whimemsz
Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:36 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to stop fucking up triconsonantal languages for novices
Replies: 21
Views: 8020

Re: How to stop fucking up triconsonantal languages for novi

so is anything happening with this or what
by Whimemsz
Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:37 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 649304

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

ol bofosh wrote:Okay, latest speculation on my weird /r/: I have a [ʋʷ] sort of thing going on, along with [ɹˤ]. [ʋ] is lost in my posh accent and also in the intrusive-r.
Compare:
thawing [ˈθɔː.ɹʷˤɪ̈ŋ]
boring [ˈbɔː.ʋɹʷˤɪ̈ŋ]
At least until the next best idea comes along.
Surely you mean [ˈb̥ɔ̝ː.ʋɹʷˤɪ̈̃ŋ]???
by Whimemsz
Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:09 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Justifying sound changes
Replies: 18
Views: 5671

Re: Justifying sound changes

I know it's a few months later, but I just saw this and should point out that Jeff mentioned once (and a look at a Cheyenne dictionary confirms) that this isn't the correct form of Cheyenne "winter." (I'm assuming you took the tidbit from McWhorter -- I remember it being in one of his books.) The ac...
by Whimemsz
Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:49 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: An overview of Acranasian
Replies: 14
Views: 3999

Re: An overview of Acranasian

Risla wrote:Gida'an; Listed on the online dictionary as "remove it (using something)," and I used it there for "delete it" because I couldn't figure out any better words.
Oh, whoops, in my notes I write am-theme VTIs with final -am for convenience... I forgot that's not the convention!
by Whimemsz
Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:26 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 649304

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Drydic Guy wrote:[Er\oUs]
Apparently the "correct" answer is /ˈɪərɒs/ or /ˈɛrɒs/ (meaning /ˈerɑs/ for me). But I don't think I've ever heard it spoken and I wasn't sure until I looked it up just now how it was "supposed" to be pronounced. I probably would have gone with /ˈeros/.