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by gmalivuk
Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:40 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tenses
Replies: 48
Views: 11555

Re: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tense

I'm not sure you can decide to have to do something, and "Are you gonna eat that" sounds an awful lot like "Are you planning to eat that". "I'm gonna pass" and "I'm going to tell Mom" are probably real counterexamples, though. As for "will", I'm not sure any of those are definitely prior decisions, ...
by gmalivuk
Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:52 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tenses
Replies: 48
Views: 11555

Re: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tense

But for voluntary decisions about future actions, I can't think of any examples where "going to" doesn't indicate an already-made decision. This is the sort of thing that's very easy to check with Google. Gooling "I'm going to" gives examples like these, none of which indicates a decision: So perha...
by gmalivuk
Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:51 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tenses
Replies: 48
Views: 11555

Re: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tense

What asteroids are going to do is a prediction, which as I said can also be expressed with "going to". But for voluntary decisions about future actions, I can't think of any examples where "going to" doesn't indicate an already-made decision. "I'm going to help you move" means I already decided that...
by gmalivuk
Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:37 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tenses
Replies: 48
Views: 11555

Re: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tense

I don't know the technical terms, but in ESL the standard explanation for the difference between "will" and "going to" for voluntary actions is that "will" is for decisions made at the time of speaking (and offers andppromises made at the time of speaking) while "going to" indicates a prior intentio...
by gmalivuk
Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:11 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 426940

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Hm, I guess I must have missed that amid all the irrelevant examples.
by gmalivuk
Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:01 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 426940

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

To some extent I think "I says" is what older people say where younger people would say, "I was like". It's not meant to be a literal quotation, but an approximate one for the purposes of storytelling. There does appear to be a fairly regular pattern[*] in English by which the suffix -ate reflecting...
by gmalivuk
Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:20 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 157068

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

I've always treated it as an initial-stress-derived noun, so DEfault is the noun while deFAULT is the verb.
by gmalivuk
Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:21 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Stressed /ə/ in English
Replies: 31
Views: 7601

Re: Stressed /ə/ in English

To be fair, a teacher in a language-related field hardly counts as a random person when it comes to linguistic questions. I wouldn't care if I had, say, an Uber driver who thought the PEN vowel should be written as /e/ in a pronunciation guide, but when it was my CELTA trainer, it was rather frustra...
by gmalivuk
Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:46 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Stressed /ə/ in English
Replies: 31
Views: 7601

Re: Stressed /ə/ in English

The only true stressed schwa in American English is in words like "pull" and "full" which in a dictionary are listed as having /ʊ/. Isn't this rather circular? Of course you'll conclude that schwa is /ʊ/ if you start with the assumption that the sound in words with /ʊ/ is a stressed schwa. Incident...
by gmalivuk
Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:41 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: May have vs. might have
Replies: 25
Views: 7580

Re: May have vs. might have

Could seems counterfactual when used with passive or non-volitional active verbs, but not with volitional active verbs, where it to me indicates the ability of the subject to do the action in question, whereas might to me can be counterfactual with all verbs. Agreed, but since "die" is non-volition...
by gmalivuk
Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:46 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: May have vs. might have
Replies: 25
Views: 7580

Re: May have vs. might have

I would say both "could" and "might" can be either counterfactual or speculative. "I'm so glad they got out in time! They could/might have died!" "No one has heard from them in weeks. They could/might have died." I keep going back and forth about whether one sense or the other is more common or more...
by gmalivuk
Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:18 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 157068

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

/ɹaʊt/ and /ɹut/ are actually distinct words for me. My route (/ɹaʊt/) home from work crosses over Route (/ɹut/) 50. I occasionally mix them up, but for the most part /ɹaʊt/ is the word for a path one takes, and /ɹut/ is a type of highway classification. I always say /ɹaʊtəɹ/ though. /ɹutər/ just s...
by gmalivuk
Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:50 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 157068

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Stack cutters also have a slanted blade, as far as I know. The point is that the blade moves straight down as in the beheading device, unlike the glorified scossors Brits call a guillotine.
by gmalivuk
Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:52 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 157068

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Yeah, in this case it definitely had the connotation of "global" rather than merely involving more than one nation. (Especially when contrasted with "Americanisms" that exist in more nations of the Americas than just the United States.)
by gmalivuk
Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:42 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 157068

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Do you also say "paper cutter thing" for what we call 'scissors'? So what do y'all call a "letter opener"? An éviscéreuse ? Well I do now! Not really comparable, though - one's losing a well-established, international word for something that has one What do you mean "losing"? "Guillotine" was (more...
by gmalivuk
Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:10 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 157068

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

It's also funny to read the list as an American, because to my ear pronouncing Spanish 'll' words with the /l/ phoneme sounds like an affectation in the opposite direction. Rhyming "quesadilla" with "Godzilla" pokes fun at the speaker's exaggerated lack of sophistication, while pronouncing it more a...
by gmalivuk
Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:59 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 157068

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

I always assumed the "Genghis" spelling was from Italian, where it does have basically the same pronunciation as the original.
by gmalivuk
Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:40 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
Replies: 812
Views: 209217

Re: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2

Well, it's without any mixture of Sanskrit, so of course it's ancient!
by gmalivuk
Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:19 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Gender agreement in English
Replies: 28
Views: 7328

Re: Gender agreement in English

Rather than arguing abstractly about the influence of the movie on Google web hits, just do a case-swnsitive ngrams search that excludes (properly capitalized) movie titles? https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=pretty+woman+%2B+pretty+women%2C+handsome+man+%2B+handsome+men&year_start=1800&y...
by gmalivuk
Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:41 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Native speakers giving misleading information
Replies: 86
Views: 24629

Re: Native speakers giving misleading information

Yeah, the likelihood of the politeness explanation has always been weakened for me by the grammaticality of "me and". If politeness explained the origin of the grammar, it seems like it should have applied equally to subjects and objects.
by gmalivuk
Tue May 17, 2016 6:53 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 426940

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Both "Eurovision" and "the Eurovision Song Contest" are fine for me, but "the Eurovision" indeed seems wrong. The way I'd explain it is that it sounds like a compound, and we don't usually use "the" in proper noun phrases or compounds unless the head is a common noun, but it's a kind of contest, not...
by gmalivuk
Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:46 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 426940

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Also, many species of spiders *have* gone extinct. It's just that there are about 35k (named) species still remaining.
by gmalivuk
Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:30 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Himba color naming
Replies: 38
Views: 8066

Re: Himba color naming

I mean, I think there's something to it though. Icelandic didn't gain a word for "orange" until the mid-century and my grandparents will typically call things that I would call appelsínugulur either gulur "yellow" or rauður "red". Carrots are called gulrætur "yellow roots" and egg yolks are eggjara...
by gmalivuk
Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:30 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "Inflection" meaning intonation
Replies: 8
Views: 2061

Re: "Inflection" meaning intonation

clawgrip wrote:Just as your boss at work is not someone you must kill in order to leave the area.
Speak for yourself.
by gmalivuk
Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:54 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "Inflection" meaning intonation
Replies: 8
Views: 2061

Re: "Inflection" meaning intonation

That etymology itself shows that the pronunciation meaning is about 60 years older than the technical linguistic meaning.