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by Šọ̈́gala
Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:38 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Re: Lexember 2017

Vaq’ǫ̂ʔ Nąśą day 9: haq’á /háqʼaː˦˥/ v. “to till (a garden or farm), to argue bitterly, to spread invidious gossip”

< /ʃàqàːʔ/ “to till”

https://kwaco.tumblr.com/post/168363820 ... mber-day-9
by Šọ̈́gala
Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:55 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Re: Lexember 2017

Vaq’ǫ̂ʔ Nąśą day 8: káhqhęmá /kaː˦˥hχẽ́maː˨˦/ n. “ravine, stream, brook” < /kàːʔ/ “hill” + /ʃqẽ́ː/ “to whisper” + /(m)òʔ/ “ᴀɴᴍᴢ” lit. “hill-whisperer”. Note that “hill” usually appears in an extended form derived from /kàːʔᵑɡą̀/. /o/ in the agent nominalizer regularly becomes /a/ in this word due to...
by Šọ̈́gala
Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:14 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Re: Lexember 2017

Vaq’ǫ̂ʔ Nąśą day 7: warę̈ʔ /wàrẽ́ʔ/ n. “hearth”

< /bàz/ “floor, part of a house.ᴄᴏɴsᴛʀᴜᴄᴛ ” + /ᶰɢẽ̀t/ “north”

lit. “north part of a house”, due to Nąśą custom of positioning the hearth in that location

https://kwaco.tumblr.com/post/168317526 ... mber-day-7
by Šọ̈́gala
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:34 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Re: Lexember 2017

sorry! forgot to post day 6 here yesterday! Vaq’ǫ̂ʔ Nąśą day 6: ésá /eː˦˥saː˦˥/ n. “crops, plants cultivated in a garden or farm and still in the ground or not yet thoroughly processed” < /ʔèʔć-/ “create, rear” + /àʔ/ “ʀɴᴍᴢ” lit. “creation”. https://kwaco.tumblr.com/post/168282526792/lexember-day-6
by Šọ̈́gala
Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:07 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Re: Lexember 2017

Vaq’ǫ̂ʔ Nąśą day 5: numbers! 2: ká /kaː˦˥/ cf. ká “to match, to pair” 3: ke /ké/ cf. khe “edge” 4: roh /ròh/ 5: q’ehte /qʼéhté/ cf. q’ehtem “fist” 6: ōt’iʔ /òːtʼíʔ/ 7: wą́ /wã˨˦/ 8: wę́dhoh /wẽ˨˦ðòh/ cf. wę́ʔ “doubled” 9: sāʔ /sáːʔ/ cf. sāʔ “to take away” 10: yar /jàr/ cf. yara “finger” 11: tā /táː/...
by Šọ̈́gala
Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:09 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Re: Lexember 2017

Vaq’ǫ̂ʔ Nąśą day 4: tēká /téːkaː˦˥/ n. “plant, edible vegetables”

< /tèːk/ “grow, live” + /àʔ/ “ʀɴᴍᴢ”

lit. “growth”. Does not normally refer to crops (cultivated plants not yet prepared for food) specifically.

http://kwaco.tumblr.com/post/1682129938 ... ur-veggies
by Šọ̈́gala
Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:59 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Re: Lexember 2017

Vaq’ǫ̂ʔ Nąśą day 3: qhāhta /χáːhtá/ n. “scrubland, heath, arid lands with some tree cover near a desert” < /qáː/ “not intense, to a low degree, weak, sickly” + /stàː/ “woods” lit. “weak woods”. That this was an early compound is indicated by the shortening of the vowel in the second syllable. https:...
by Šọ̈́gala
Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:52 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Re: Lexember 2017

Vaq’ǫ̂ʔ Nąśą day 2: dhązēdh ngó /ðã̀zèːð ŋoː˨˦/ n. “owl”

< /ⁿdã̀ʒéːd/ “night” + /gòʔ/ “dive” + /òʔ/ “ᴀɴᴍᴢ”

lit. “night-diver”

https://kwaco.tumblr.com/post/168140195 ... about-owls
by Šọ̈́gala
Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:57 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexember 2017
Replies: 43
Views: 16528

Lexember 2017

Well, everybody, Lexember is here again. Let's not forget the reason for the season: the expansion of the vocabulary of a beloved conlang ... or, in my case this year, the creation of vocabulary from scratch for a language that did not have a name before today. This year, I have also a created a Lex...
by Šọ̈́gala
Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:49 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to make a spelling without diacritics?
Replies: 24
Views: 6440

Re: How to make a spelling without diacritics?

There are many examples: Kazakh, Kalmyk, Scottish dialects of English. Perhaps Proto-Indo-European.
by Šọ̈́gala
Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:19 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to make a spelling without diacritics?
Replies: 24
Views: 6440

Re: How to make a spelling without diacritics?

Good point. However, people tend to shy away from that for their conlang, since it starts out with literally 0 people knowing the lexicon. So if there's ambiguity in the orthography, you'll need an additional set of notes with IPA pronunciations or whatever. Not a big deal; I'm sure some people keep...
by Šọ̈́gala
Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:03 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to make a spelling without diacritics?
Replies: 24
Views: 6440

Re: How to make a spelling without diacritics?

You could do what the new Kazakh orthography does and just make all the digraphs with `! Seriously, though, it's much easier if the phonotactics are restrictive. But, in a pinch, you can always use ' or - to disambiguate clusters from digraphs. Or, as in one version of the romanisation I like for Mo...
by Šọ̈́gala
Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:59 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

The steppe population that apparently spoke PIE (or possibly PIE-minus-Anatolian) - that is, the steppe population that then invaded Europe and eventually India - is genitically about 50% eastern european hunter gatherers (i.e. the people who were hanging around there already) and 50% caucasians, W...
by Šọ̈́gala
Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:23 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Two questions about Welsh
Replies: 3
Views: 2218

Re: Two questions about Welsh

Yeah, e.g. the loanwords, of which I suppose they have plenty, don't normally do mutations, right? One could do a study to determine whether the presence of those words causes some kind of practical problems for the speakers. I'm guessing no.
by Šọ̈́gala
Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:24 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 81452

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

And then the 0-grade has a separate cause?
by Šọ̈́gala
Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:12 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 81452

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

One important later sound change in my model is that sequences of o-o were transformed into e-o sequences. This sound change is one of the reasons that the o-grade in modern PIE looks so much like a secondary development. You see this in the declension of the noun genos (latin genus, generis): gono...
by Šọ̈́gala
Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:49 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Vowel deletion in adjectives only?
Replies: 9
Views: 4351

Re: Vowel deletion in adjectives only?

You could do something with different accent patterns in adjectives and then resulting apocope. I've never heard of a language with distinct accent paradigms for adjectives, but there are some with distinctive noun vs. verb accentuation. Maybe you could do something where the adjectives started out ...
by Šọ̈́gala
Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:55 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

That pretty much misses the whole point of why the laryngeal theory was brought up in the first place — namely, to unify the e-grade vowel as *e. Well, yeah. Unifying the e-grade vowel is not an end in itself. I was starting from Carrasquer Vidal's Pre-Proto model where he's already scrapped that i...
by Šọ̈́gala
Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:18 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I was toying with a similar idea, playing off of Carrasquer Vidal's model. If the basic difference between *ke- and *ka- (so-called plain velars) is the original vowel quality, not vowel coloring, even though both vowels correspond to *e in almost any other position, what if the difference between *...
by Šọ̈́gala
Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:31 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Thanks, I was actually thinking of https://www.academia.edu/4199002/PIE_a, but the centum-satem paper gives more detail. Just perusing the list of *k- roots at Wiktionary, the idea of a-coloring does appear sporadic at best. Actually *g- has a higher proportion of *a vocalism. Carrasquer Vidal argue...
by Šọ̈́gala
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:36 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

But this is a weakness of the whole laryngeal theory. You have these magical laryngeals that do vowel coloring and then mostly disappear in the daughter languages. It's definitely a tricky business positing phonemes that have no segmental reflexes. But, on the other hand, is it really so surprising...
by Šọ̈́gala
Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:05 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I would suggest the bilabial fricative (ɸ) for reconstructing h₃. It is not in the velar region, but why does it have to be? It is less marked than the uvular fricative (X) proposed for h₂, which explains why h₂ has more direct reflexes (the 'h' in Hittite). And it would definitely cause rounding. ...
by Šọ̈́gala
Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:55 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Well, all of that makes a lot of sense to me, but is there any precedent for a voiced fricative producing distinctive vowel coloring? Yes, see German /x/ vs /ʁ/. Those would appear to have different places of articulation. For that matter, is there precedent for rounding blocking a vowel-coloring e...
by Šọ̈́gala
Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:32 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Well, all of that makes a lot of sense to me, but is there any precedent for a voiced fricative producing distinctive vowel coloring? For that matter, is there precedent for rounding blocking a vowel-coloring effect? About *kʷ, regardless of whether of not it's a unitary phoneme, there seem to be ve...
by Šọ̈́gala
Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:24 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455201

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

On another note, has anyone attempted to reconcile *kap- 'seize, grasp' and *gʰebʰ-, *gʰabʰ- 'give', 'seize, take', 'have, hold'? It seems as if it has something to do with the PIE constraint against TVDʰ and DʰVT roots... On the face of it, wouldn't the simplest thing be to assume either a morphol...