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My own favorite "exotic" sounds are linguo-labials and lateral plosives. But I don't think I'll use them in my first conlang. Aren't lateral plosives impossible by definition (unless you mean laterally released )? Lateral means there's more airflow round the sides of the tongue than in the centre, ...

¡Papapishu! wrote: [snip]

My own favorite "exotic" sounds are linguo-labials and lateral plosives. But I don't think I'll use them in my first conlang.

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Tom H.C. in MI

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Every language has the same range of choices: to the best of my memory they are the following: * lexical suppletion (like "me" and "I") * stem modification (like "you" and "your" and "yours") * affixes (almost always suffixes to indicate Case; but prefixes and infixes and circumfixes and superfixes...

If you look again, you'll see "nebula" put asterisks before those constructions; this means he(?) considered them ungrammatical. No he didn't. I mailed [a letter to] Bob. Huh! I didn't realize that was the one you were talking about. There the theme/patient/directobject of "mailed" is still inanima...

I think you're partly right, but it's also partly determined by the verb. Logically "gave" should act the same as "showed", yet **"I gave [a present to] Bob" is unacceptable. I believe you are right; unless you meant something other than what I understood (in which case you still might be right.) A...

[snip] Even if you include clearly nominative forms, that leads just to ungrammatical sentences (I'm not a native speaker, so I may be wrong here - and things like this may, of course, be admissible in poetry, but then, what isn't?): *Kisses she. [snip] So, it seems to me, in English, the slot in t...

How would you treat imperative clausess in that "omission" framework - e.g. in "Kill Bill" Bill is automatically interpreted as direct object for which reason 1) Omission / role assignment rule for imperative clauses differs from other clauses or 2) Imperative clauses have an implied subject, so th...

[snip] Just to be clear, I was not using "nominative" to mean "subject". Yes, I understood that. You mention ergative languages yourself; if they have this sort of rule it presumably assigns default absolutive case. That's what you'd think, but it isn't so in most cases. In most ergative languages ...

Every language has the same range of choices: to the best of my memory they are the following: * lexical suppletion (like "me" and "I") * stem modification (like "you" and "your" and "yours") * affixes [snip] * agreement -- some other word is modified to indicate the case [snip] * periphrasis -- ad...

Doing so I find suggestions that modern French has two genitives; a suggestion that English's "of" genitive and English's "Saxon" genitive (I think that's the "-'s" genitive) should be treated as Genitive-1 and Genitive-2; and a suggestion that modern English pronouns have two genitives. Genitive-1...

I found a (Dutch) website about the genitive's functions in Latin. Latin has 12 Genitives, i.e. 12 genitive functions; apart from the genitive possessive and the four Greek genitives you mentioned, it has: (snip) Let's keep clear on this - Latin has one Genitive with several functions! The question...

The temptation to call any adnominal case "genitive" seems to be so strong that some language's adnominal cases are just called "Genitive I", "Genitive II", etc. Interesting. Can you give any specific examples? I found another example; it's Tsez. (According to Bernard Comrie's "Valency-Changing Der...

The temptation to call any adnominal case "genitive" seems to be so strong that some language's adnominal cases are just called "Genitive I", "Genitive II", etc. Interesting. Can you give any specific examples? For examples: See [snip] It looks like all but one of the examples is Russian; which has...

The temptation to call any adnominal case "genitive" seems to be so strong that some language's adnominal cases are just called "Genitive I", "Genitive II", etc. Interesting. Can you give any specific examples? For examples: See http://www.alphadictionary.com/rusgrammar/caseexcpt.html and http://ww...

Firstly: what are the usual terms for cases that result in something that modifies a noun and cases that result in something that acts adverbially? Is adjectival case/adverbial case okay? Case(s) which make the so-cased noun or NP modify another noun or NP are called " adnominal cases", to distingu...

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