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/p t ʦ tʂ ʧ k ʔ/ <p t ts ch c k x> /pʼ tʼ ʦʼ tʂʼ ʧʼ kʼ/ <px tx tsx chx cx kx> /b d ɡ/ <b d g> /m n/ <m n> /s ʂ ʃ h/ <s sch sh h> /z ʐ ʒ/ <z zch zh> /r/ <r> /l j/ <l y> fjqvw /i e a o u/ <i e a o u> /ja/ can be analyzed as one nucleus. /m/ and /n/ can be syllabic. /˩ ˨ ˨˧ ˧ ˦ ˥/ <q v w 0/' j f> Schon...

been a while since anyone's posted a natlang, here's Kashubian /p b t d ts dz tʂ dʐ (tɕ dʑ) k g/ /f v s z ʂ ʐ (ɕ ʑ) x/ /m n ɲ/ /l r r̝ j w/ /a ɛ ɵ ɔ e ə o i u/ /ɛ̃ ã/ (/wɛ wu/) /wɛjtʂɛ naʂ, jatʂi jɛs v ɲɛbjɛ, ɲɛx sã svjãtsi tvwɛjɛ mjɔnɔ, ɲɛx pr̝iɲdzɛ tvwɛjɛ krolestvwe, ɲɛx mdzɛ tvwɛja vwɛlɵ jakno v ...

/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m n nn ny ng> /p t ʈ ɟ k (ʔ)/ <p d t j k> /ɸ s ʂ ç x/ <f s sh hy h> /w j ɰ/ <w y g> /ɭ ʎ̥˔/ <l r> Vowels: /i ʉ u/ <i ü u> /e ə o/ <é e o> /æ a/ <a a> /iə io uo/ <ie io uo> /eə oə/ <ei ou> /æə əæ au/ <ae ea au> kuɳə kuɳə saɰíɳ, opaɟin mæəʂmaʈiə ʎ̥˔oəɰe ʔoə? jojo, ɲuta jau çamʉnu sin. ɲuɟ...

no it hasn't -- there are strong verb ablaut patterns regular enough to be extended by analogy. there are even patterns that are *entirely* analogical in origin, e.g. 'dive', 'sneak', 'sit'

Vijay wrote:There are dialects of Armenian with breathy voice? No way!

yes

http://www.academia.edu/4101967/The_Pho ... f_Armenian

What's all this stuff about Beethoven being dramatic about, he never even tried to send an orchestra to the Himalayas to bring about the end of the world

Stupid question: does loss of syllabic resonants apply before or after loss of laryngeals? If you have a *VHRC sequence, the R would be reconstructed as syllabic for PIE, but what happens with the reflexes?

Note the handwavy, ad hoc description Churchyard is forced to resort to. Yes, terminology is imprecise, and in cases where there's no standard terminology it's necessary to either borrow terminology that isn't quite right but gets the message across well enough or resort to handwavy ad-hoc descript...

I need more sources of /ɛ/ as /æj ɔj/ with coda /j/ are mostly found in certain verb conjugation forms. But I don't want to do a generalized umlaut either, because that will obliterate too many cases of /a/. You can probably have umlaut conditioned by _$j without umlaut conditioned by _$V[+front]. ...

There's no widespread misconception -- singular "they" doesn't exist, except among the people who insist that it does. There is a generic "they", and there is a great deal of evidence compiled by stupid and/or lying singular "they" advocates that the generic "they" has been around since Chaucer. (Ge...

If I have a conlang that's in contact with Latin, but that has phonological and morphological developments such that the declension classes don't match up well with Latin ones, what would happen to Latin loans? Specifically: (there are more cases and a few more declensions but they probably aren't r...

Literal transliteration of the native script [using the Latin ~cognates of the Greek-derived letters wherever possible]: /p b t d k g/ <p b t d q k> /ts (dz) tʂ (dʐ) tɕ (dʑ)/ <tr ddr x dz tȋ dtȋ> /f v s z ʂ ʐ ɕ (ʑ) x h/ <ph f s dr ś z sȋ drȋ ψ h> /m n ŋ/ <m n c> /l ɭ ʎ r j/ <l r lȋ ṛ i> /a ɛ ə ɔ e ø...

I've been conlanging more than I used to, but it's a huge time sink and I've been trying to spend less time on it and more time on things that aren't completely unproductive. Eventually I'll get a job that doesn't give me ridiculously long weekends [and lets me both make rent and eat] so I should be...

isn't -te:s from *-teh2ts? why wouldn't the sigma be original?

the judgment here is quite subjective—though I'm someone who likes using them a lot. What irks me about the English usage of the em dash is that you keep it glued to the words at its both ends. So, in your post, “subjective—though” looks like a phrase on its own, joined with a dash, and not as two ...

OK, the last one I heard was just that everyone really liked their poetry (I am not making this up) Let me guess it goes something like this: "Hey, look at these Pre-IE languages we know of, Basque and Etruscan, they're so harsh sounding they must be terrible for writing poetry, because as well all...

I left most of my books with my parents when I moved out and haven't gotten around to collecting them yet, so the only ones I have with me now are: - A collection of ancient Bible fanfiction, if that counts - Book of Mormon - Zhuangzi - various secondary literature around the Constitution, which tot...

Travis B. wrote:

vergil wrote:How does something like [tʙ] feature into this homorganicism?

That is not homorganic.

right, but it's still sometimes called an affricate.

/pʌlkrɨˈtuwdənəs/ [ˌpʌɫkɹɨˈtʰʉ̈wdn̩əs]
/delɨˈtesənt/ [ˌd̥ɛɫɨˈtʰɛsn̩ʔt]
/sindərˈijsis/ [ˌsɪndɚˈïjˌsɪs]

I don't listen to classical music because I don't like violins. Firstly, a lot if not most classical music does not involve violins (I mean in Bach's output the number of pieces with any kind of string parts are in a minority, most of his stuff is keyboard like harpsichord and organ). Secondly, I'm...

The notion of PIE speakers being Mongol-like nomadic steppe horsemen is a strawman the proponents of the Anatolian hypothesis and of Paleolithic Continuity like to whack. Nobody believes in this anymore. The last hypothesis for PIE expansion that I heard... OK, the last one I heard was just that ev...

I don't listen to classical music because I don't like violins.

Honestly I don't know much about reindeer herding, but for discussing language group expansion, the question is whether it allows empires, as horse nomadism does. I don't know much about horse nomadism, but isn't it the prevailing theory nowadays that the Indo-European expansion was driven more by ...

can have unit rhotacized peripheral plosives (Pumi iirc), they're just not affricates

Pannonian, yet again /p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g> /ts (dz) tʂ (dʐ) tɕ (dʑ)/ <c dz č dž ć dź> /f v s z ʂ ʐ ɕ (ʑ) x h/ <f w s z š ž ś zi~ź ch h> /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /l ɭ ʎ r j/ <l ł lj r j> /a ɛ ə ɔ e ø o i y u/ + length <a è ë ò e ö o i ü u> + <VV> / <Ve> contrastive stress (unmarked) /ˀ/: /ˀP/ <PP>, /ˀ#...