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- Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:00 am
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: LaTeX: How do you insert IPA characters?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 11609
Re: LaTeX: How do you insert IPA characters?
ß∂∫æ and those are the four IPA symbols I can shortcut to atm. Might relink some more later though. Uhm, those first three aren't IPA symbols. I assume you were aiming for βðʃ, but those are different from your Eszett, partial derivative and sum symbol, respectively. I mostly use Aszev's X-SAMPA to...
- Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:38 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Polyglottal Telephone 17 [done]
- Replies: 161
- Views: 30853
Re: Polyglottal Telephone (number 17)
From: Danish, English, French, Norwegian, Swedish*
To: English, French, Swedish*
If anyone's willing to translate into Old French, I'd be happy to translate out of it.
To: English, French, Swedish*
If anyone's willing to translate into Old French, I'd be happy to translate out of it.
- Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:20 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Very quick question about IE mediopassive cause I am lazy
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2827
Re: Very quick question about IE mediopassive cause I am laz
Well, it was -sk historically (attested in Old Norse and in English loans from Norse like bask , lit. "bathe oneself"), but you're right, in the Modern Scandinavian languages it has become -s ( -st in Icelandic). Oh, right, okay. In some Norwegian dialects it's -st too. I don't know if it's even pr...
- Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:18 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Very quick question about IE mediopassive cause I am lazy
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2827
Re: Very quick question about IE mediopassive cause I am laz
Is that a typo for -s, or are you referring to a morpheme I'm not aware of?hwhatting wrote:Suffixing a clitic form of the reflexive pronoun into a kind of reflexive-mediopassive ending set is an areal features - Scandinavian languages (-sk)
- Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:49 am
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
- Replies: 2878
- Views: 651667
Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Yes it does, if you're intelligent enough to copy-paste the whole thing after the slash in the URL bar.Bryan wrote:patiku, it doesn't work. :'(
- Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:28 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Sources of "because"
- Replies: 68
- Views: 11996
Re: Sources of "because"
Uhm... then how would you pronounce it?*Ceresz wrote:You do have a point though, seeing as I wouldn't pronounce the first att as [atː] if I were to even keep it in the sentence.
- Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:12 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Gender of loanwords
- Replies: 45
- Views: 9112
Re: Gender of loanwords
Don't some Swedes* exhibit masculine/feminine agreement in adjectives, e.g. store = m., stora = f./n., or is that mostly/entirely gone by now? * Not counting the Swedes who clearly distinguish masculine/feminine in other ways, that is. I think those who do it consistently are rare and would be very...
- Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:52 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Gender of loanwords
- Replies: 45
- Views: 9112
Re: Gender of loanwords
Thanks! So this looks like Swedish has at minimum four genders (common-male, common-female, common non-male/female, and neuter), if one doesn't count, things like han / hon for neuter nouns, but sees them as the result of conflicting triggering rules, or six genders (common-male, common-female, com...
- Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:21 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Gender of loanwords
- Replies: 45
- Views: 9112
Re: Gender of loanwords
Also, if we use that definition, Swedish has four genders after all, since we have "he" and "she" as well. But only one of them affects verbal agreement, arguably. I tried to figure the Swedish gender system out from the Swedish Grammar page on wikipedia. Three questions: 1) How do the pronouns wor...
- Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:53 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Gender of loanwords
- Replies: 45
- Views: 9112
Re: Gender of loanwords
So my point is, while most linguists are taking the pragmatic approach "definiteness inflection = gender" It's not just that, it's agreement too. If you were to claim that stol and katt were of different genders because they decline differently in the plural ( stol ar and katt er ), you'd be at a l...
- Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:59 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Go" as a nonhuman "speech" marker
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4063
Re: "Go" as a nonhuman "speech" marker
Colloquial Swedish would use bara 'just, only' in examples like "the car goes/went KBROINK" ('bilen bara KBROINK'). But I'm unsure about how to express it more formally without it sounding all too stilted, like "the car made a noise that sounded KBROINK". EDIT: Actually, låta 'sound' might be a good...
- Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:30 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Morphoplogical change stimulated by Sprachbunds.
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3964
Re: Morphoplogical change stimulated by Sprachbunds.
BTW I didn't bring up the spread of non-cash payment types idly. Social scientists have developed a model for the spread of innovations among human communities that works regardless of the actual nature of the changes introduced. It was originally developed by observing the adoption of seed corn va...
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:47 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: PC pronouns
- Replies: 56
- Views: 19258
Re: PC pronouns
In Swedish it's marked, you say; but was that the case too before the pronoun hen was fabricated? I'm curious. Hen hasn't made that deep an impact, it's still just a neologism floating on top of the language, although being picked up more often than before. The thing is, colloquial Swedish (except ...
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:10 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: PC pronouns
- Replies: 56
- Views: 19258
Re: PC pronouns
I've noticed a few instances where Facebook assumes you're male even if you haven't specified gender. The only one I recall at the moment is (in the French version), when there's a like button on external websites and none of your friends has yet liked the thing (a video, a blog post or whatever), ...
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:36 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: PC pronouns
- Replies: 56
- Views: 19258
Re: PC pronouns
This happens on facebook with people who have not specified their gender. "John Smith updated their work history." I've noticed a few instances where Facebook assumes you're male even if you haven't specified gender. The only one I recall at the moment is (in the French version), when there's a lik...
- Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:27 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: PC pronouns
- Replies: 56
- Views: 19258
Re: PC pronouns
Swedish normally has han and hon for 'he' and 'she' respectively, but as late as this year there has been a huge debate on the gender neutral hen , which has gained quite some popularity. As far as language planning goes anyway. Of course the traditional pronouns are still massively outnumbering the...
- Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:52 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Latin / Romance -mus verb ending
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2078
Re: Latin / Romance -mus verb ending
1sg -mi + plural? </never studied IE linguistics>Soap wrote:http://enwp.org/PIE_verb shows several different possibilities for the PIE version of it, but they all seem to be unanalyzable single morphemes, which suggests that no one really knows "why" it came from -mes or -mos or whatever it is.
- Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:10 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Bizarre Sound Changes
- Replies: 190
- Views: 96734
Re: Bizarre Sound Changes
Don't know if there were mentioned in the earlier thread but: ON. /θ/ -> Far. /tʰ/ and /h/ Icelandic has: Proto-Norse o (then I-umlaut) -> Old Norse <ø> /ø/ -> Modern Icelandic <æ> /ai̯/ (might not be written down precisely, but you get the picture, I hope). Also Icelandic: ON /kn/ (knífr) -> Moder...
- Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:07 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: categorizing vowels
- Replies: 53
- Views: 10320
Re: categorizing vowels
This should be moved to the L&L Museum.
- Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:58 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Mɛdíṭṣai Location and Motion Description (Was: SVCs)
- Replies: 25
- Views: 12943
Re: Serial Verb Constructions in Mɛdíṭṣai
It's sad that posts with these kind of really detailed grammatical descriptions are so few, and when finally they appear, they're hardly commented on. I'll try to comment on a few things, although I'm not knowledgeable enough on the subject to say anything too valuable, I'm afraid. These two SVCs: (...
- Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:12 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Subclause-shmubclause.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2142
Re: Subclause-shmubclause.
The huge impact that it was predicted these movements would have on music didn't take place. The boy that it was predicted you would give the ball to didn't come. ?? But that's not what the original French sentence says, which is literally more akin to "The huge impact that one predicted...". Which...
- Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:31 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Subclause-shmubclause.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2142
Re: Subclause-shmubclause.
Okay, so wtf. I'm glad I'm not studying syntax anymore because I can't get my head around what's fundamentally different about the music impact sentence.Yng wrote:All OK.
- Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:14 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Subclause-shmubclause.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2142
Re: Subclause-shmubclause.
the.boy REL I thought that you gave the.ball to Or does that work in English too? Yes, that's fine; that's the sort of sentence I talked about verbs of thinking sneaking into. Okay, so what about "the boy that I thought mom said you would give the ball to"? Or "the boy that you're not allowed to gi...
- Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:43 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Subclause-shmubclause.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2142
Re: Subclause-shmubclause.
For what it's worth, this type of construction is entirely unproblematic in Swedish, the equivalent being den häftiga effekt (som) man trodde att dessa rörelser skulle ha på musiken inträffade aldrig the massive impact (REL) one thought that these movements would have on music occured never This wou...
- Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:04 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)
- Replies: 157
- Views: 27664
Re: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)
It didn't even occur to me that "fabelaktig" was meant to be "fabulous" and not "like a fable", and that "tappe" was "tap" and not "drop", heh. That is because I don't really know any Norwegian :D No, it's because I don't, apparently! You translated it right, I misunderstood because of Swedish inte...