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The whole set of back vowels for me has shifted from standard as far as I've been able to tell. u is ranges all over depending on context. I get the impression the most common onset is a slightly backed, but not yet centralized, [ɪ]. Rounding the onset is also context-dependent, but I get the impre...

Interesting! I am caught-cot merged, but now the merged vowel is in free variation among [ɑ~ɒ~ɔ], witht he rounded allophones more common when adjacent to velar and labial consonants and coda /l/. Then coda /l/ becomes [w].
So "all" is [ɔw] and "Faulkner" is [ˈfɔwʔk.ɳɚ], but "taught" is [tʰɑʔ]

It's beautiful!

I so want to do a IE conlang, but the verbal and nominal morphology intimidates me.

Nortaneous wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemnitz_German_phonology

A dialect of German with r > q, contrastive vowel pharyngealization, one aspirated consonant, and apparently no low vowels.

Oh. My. God. Coda R became pharyngealized vowels???

I posted my congrats over on Reddit!

beep beep bump have some vanuatu 7: Volow, Mwotlap, Vera'a, Nume (Olrat has this system + length distinction in every vowel) i u ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ a 7+1: Koro i u ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ a ɛa 8: Dorig i u ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ a a: 8: Lakon: (+ length distinction in every vowel) i u ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ æ a 8: Hiw i ʉ e ə ɵ o ɔ a 8: Lehali i u e o ɛ ...

linguoboy wrote:20 [̍tʰwʌni].

Heh, I got some labial assimilation and elision going on turning it into [tʰwʊ̃i]!

Well in the case of Standardized Mandarinandarin jqx I personally tend to think them as neutralized form before high-front approximants (I analyze i u y as syllabic approximants and actually I find forgetting the idea that a syllable must have main vowel really explains more things in Mandarin in a...

FWIW in my own (Fargo area) speech "I seen" is just plain old "I've seen" with the auxiliary elided to zero, I don't notice any kind of aspectual distinction. On the other hand, Travis once mentioned that in his (Milwaukee area) that he seems to have some kind of aspectual distinction between I've a...

I have the intervocalic flap even in careful speech.

Khoisan languages: * Uvularized stops /tᵡ dᵡ tʃᵡ/ (Ekoka !Kung), /c̟χ/ (Nǁng), /dzᵡ dʒᵡ/ (Juǀʼhoan), /tqχʼ tsqχʼ/ (Gǀui), /cqχʼ/ (ǂ’Amkoe). * Epiglottalized stops /t H k H g ʢ / contrasting, in the case of the coronal, with uvularized stops. (Juǀʼhoan) * Voice contours on stops: /b͡pʰ d͡tʰ d͡tsʰ d͡...

Nobody has mentioned English /ɻʷˤ/, yet? I am disappoint!!!

linguoboy wrote:I just received a memo from someone in the Personnel Office about upcoming "staff outages". As if their staff were the equivalent of an online service as opposed to, you know, actual human persons.

That's disgusting!

I have noticed that when I say "mom" the vowel has a slight /w/-like on-glide, so it's pronounced something like [mʷɑm] or even [mɒm].

Wow, this thread got hijacked.

Is /ɫ/ > /ʁ/ attested? It seems like a very easy change to me, but I just want to be sure.

[ɻʷæ̞ðɚ] ~ [ɻʷaðɚ]

This thread makes me sad that there aren't very many polysynthetic languages that are official languages of developing countries, because these neologisms are really fun!

Wouldn'r /θ ð/ → /ð̞/ → /ɹ̪/ suffice? To bring the topic back to my question, this is for my Future English and I want to do something interesting to the English interdentals besides just merging them with the alveolar stops. At the same time I want at least /ð/ to end up as a liquid so schwa delet...

Any objections to:

Initial /θ ð/ > /t̪ d̪/ > /r/, Intervocallic /θ ð/ > /l/?

Theta wrote:Palatalization of labials, actually. It happened in one language I can't remember the name of. But before front vowels, p > p̪ , and then later > t.

Vanuatu?

Probably not from late PIE, but perhaps from some Pre-PIE... in fact, I don't know, and it's a long time since I read about this. Personally, I'm not of the opinion that Semitic and PIE were neighbours, so there anyway needs to have been an intermediary language in any borrowing, whatever the direc...

And now for something different… First, I have seen somewhere in this thread a link arguing that the ablaut *e : *o could come from an earlier *o : *ō alternation. Second, there is this Brugmann's law showing that one of the branches of IE had *o → ā / _$ — but only for the ablauting instances of *...

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birds aren't real wrote: What happens to /jur/? (For me it varies between [j@r] and [jor], usually the former.)

The same here, I think.