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by Magb
Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:21 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Quick pitch/tone question
Replies: 3
Views: 1573

Re: Quick pitch/tone question

For the record, that's an almost perfect description of the Scandinavian pitch accent, except it's usually not as simple as "marked for either high or low tone".
by Magb
Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:31 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 420334

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Google n-gram for negatived vs. negated. It looks like "negatived" was still slightly more popular in 1952.
by Magb
Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:11 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Help your fluency in a nifty way
Replies: 4604
Views: 1129453

Re: Help your fluency in a nifty way

I don't have the energy to translate this to a different language right now, but I thought I should answer Viktor since I seem to be the only Norwegian posting here these days. Jeg vil reise til Norge til jul eller etter jul (så i januar). Har dere noen anbefalinger? For eksempel, hva by/er syns der...
by Magb
Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:59 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Temporal semantics, e.g. "last time"
Replies: 13
Views: 3496

Re: Temporal semantics, e.g. "last time"

I recall some talk about this in Metaphors We Live By, so I'd recommend reading that. Here are some interesting examples of temporal metaphors in English from some Japanese university page (probably originally from somewhere else, but this is the first thing I found). Time is... ...a changer ...a co...
by Magb
Fri May 29, 2015 2:09 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 420334

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Recently while perusing a Wikipedia article on the Got Talent franchise (don't ask), I came across the phrase "Franchise that's status in [sic] unknown". It took me a while to parse this, but I guess that's is a possessive relative pronoun formed by analogy with whose . It sounds quite natural to m...
by Magb
Wed May 27, 2015 1:05 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Weird natlang phonologies
Replies: 121
Views: 34910

Re: Weird natlang phonologies

Faroese has ð > v in some environments as well, e.g. <maður> [ˈmɛavʊɹ]. Wikipedia has a somewhat misplaced section about the development of historical /ð/ at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroese_orthography#Glide_insertion. Are the [v]'s before [ʊ] actually directly developed from /ð/ here, though,...
by Magb
Tue May 26, 2015 5:01 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Weird natlang phonologies
Replies: 121
Views: 34910

Re: Weird natlang phonologies

Faroese has ð > v in some environments as well, e.g. <maður> [ˈmɛavʊɹ]. Wikipedia has a somewhat misplaced section about the development of historical /ð/ at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroese_or ... _insertion.
by Magb
Mon May 04, 2015 3:52 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Pitch Accent and Stress Accent
Replies: 12
Views: 3061

Re: Pitch Accent and Stress Accent

Norwegian and Swedish have (mostly) initial stress and a high-low pitch system that can appear (roughly) anywhere. In Danish the high pitch has been replaced by stød which is a glottalization thingy that's a bit hard to describe. Actually I would say that the pitch accent always falls on the stress...
by Magb
Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:34 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Icelandic (First) Names
Replies: 23
Views: 5564

Re: Icelandic (First) Names

It's far from commonly used, but if you're looking for a more Icelandified version there's Mikjáll. It appears in some sagas and has a Wikipedia article: http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikj%C3%A1ll, but it's very rare.
by Magb
Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:38 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Where does /tɬ/ in Icelandic come from?
Replies: 66
Views: 13053

Re: Where does /tɬ/ in Icelandic come from?

For the record, Faroese has the same dissimilation of /l:/ and /n:/, as do some Norwegian dialects.
by Magb
Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:37 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Klingon/garbled text
Replies: 5
Views: 1864

Re: Klingon/garbled text

You could probably resolve this easily with access to the plaintext. Surely you could find someone who subscribes to Dagbladet to cut 'n paste you a sample story? I probably could, but in light of what Julanga says about fictional creatures from Star Trek in the text I'm going to assume it's just K...
by Magb
Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:54 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Klingon/garbled text
Replies: 5
Views: 1864

Klingon/garbled text

The Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet has a paywall system for their website version where certain articles (presumably the ones deemed to be sufficiently interesting) are available only to paid subscribers. When you load such articles it shows you the first few paragraphs, but blurs out the rest. Here'...
by Magb
Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:34 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Unisex names
Replies: 35
Views: 8678

Re: Unisex names

Isn't part of the reason that most European countries have stricter laws on the books regarding namegiving than the UK and the USA? From what I've seen, most of them require the names be sex-specific or allow unisex given names only in conjunction with a second name which is. Some of the rules have...
by Magb
Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:23 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Unisex names
Replies: 35
Views: 8678

Re: Unisex names

All this stuff about surnames becoming unisex names in English is interesting, and also logical since most surnames don't carry very clear implications of gender. I find it funny how English seems to be just about the only European language where this happens. I'm still looking for insight about uni...
by Magb
Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:08 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Unisex names
Replies: 35
Views: 8678

Unisex names

Vaguely inspired by the Icelandic foreign name thread from the other day (http://www.incatena.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=43059), I'd like to talk about naming conventions in the languages of the world, and in particular I'd like to know a bit about the use of unisex names. I realize that this is probab...
by Magb
Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:08 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Icelandic (First) Names
Replies: 23
Views: 5564

Re: Icelandic (First) Names

Here's an Icelandic source: http://www.visir.is/10-ara-stulku-neitad-um-vegabref-af-thjodskra/article/2014706259967 (A small correction to your description: The parents are originally British, but the two older children were indeed born in France.) According to the article the passport applications ...
by Magb
Thu May 29, 2014 6:16 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Swedish verb musings
Replies: 25
Views: 5942

Re: Swedish verb musings

IMD, and in bokmål (inf/pres/past/perf):
fø - før - fødde - fødd
føde - føder - fødte - født

In nynorsk both have fødde in the past tense. Most of the other shortened verbs are inflected similarly to .
by Magb
Tue May 27, 2014 7:59 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Swedish verb musings
Replies: 25
Views: 5942

Re: Swedish verb musings

It seems like most verbs that could potentially have been shortended according to the 1a-pattern do not in fact have short forms in the standard language. There are for example frida/freda, glöda, gräva, skava, skrida, svedja, sveda, svida, suga, såga . SAOB don't give any evidence of a short form ...
by Magb
Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:04 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: to do x back
Replies: 15
Views: 3276

Re: to do x back

Norwegian works like English, with tilbake (or att in some dialects):

I gave it to him Jeg ga ham den; or Jeg ga den til ham.
He gave it back. Han ga den tilbake.

He hit me. Han slo meg.
I hit him back. Jeg slo ham tilbake.
by Magb
Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:38 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The plurals of deer-like animals in English
Replies: 25
Views: 8496

Re: The plurals of deer-like animals in English

But with deer and sheep , the unmarked plurals go all the way back to Proto-Germanic. (German Tiere and Schafe are innovations.) Do they? According to Wiktionary (not the best source for this stuff, I know, but it should be accurate in this case), Proto-Germanic had the singular *deuzą and the plur...
by Magb
Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:48 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: whenever and wherever in other languages
Replies: 37
Views: 9908

Re: whenever and wherever in other languages

Norwegian has no simple equivalents for whenever/wherever. However, I can identify at least three different cases where different translations are required. In cases of responses to questions (e.g. "When should I come back?" "Whenever."), you'd use når som helst and hvor som helst . Når and hvor are...
by Magb
Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:56 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 455361

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

which clusters proved to be surprisingly stable, surviving into english until... what, 1600? and aren't there still some dialects without the rap-wrap merger? it's too bad the (AFAIK and I'm probably wrong) only wl- word to survive into even middle english underwent metathesis to break up the clust...
by Magb
Thu May 30, 2013 3:42 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 420334

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

linguoboy wrote:What do people think of this phrasal verb usage? (I had to reread the sentence to parse it correctly.)
Caribou Coffee may want to curb its online marketing campaign toward the young adult category
Possibly just a typo/eggcorn for "curve toward"?
by Magb
Mon May 20, 2013 2:13 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 653393

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Travis B. wrote:[ˈnaʔt ˈsefːʁ̩ˤː ˈwʁ̩ˤʔk]
What exactly do you mean by the glottal stop between the /r/ and the /k/? Is it some sort of preglottalization, or do you have a full-blown glottal stop with an independent release in there?
by Magb
Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:05 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: /ɑ/ vs. /ɔ/ vs. /ɒ/?
Replies: 37
Views: 7924

Re: /ɑ/ vs. /ɔ/ vs. /ɒ/?

Serafín wrote:ar(C), father/gather = /ɑː/
Wait, there are people with /ɑː/ in "gather"?