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by StrangerCoug
Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:37 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Proto-Wideriver Scratchpad/Lexical Participation Thread
Replies: 12
Views: 6522

Proto-Wideriver Scratchpad/Lexical Participation Thread

Since all the cool kids seem to be doing a scratchpad, I'm at the point where I feel like this needs some more sets of eyes, and I'm out of ideas for words/concepts to add. FIRST, A BIT OF THE CONWORLD AND CONCULTURE THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW The conworld, to which I have yet to give a name, is ...
by StrangerCoug
Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:20 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620495

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Possible idea.

Another question: Is /ŋk/ → /ŋɡ/ → /ɲɟ/ → /ndʒ/ plausible in the environment F_V (F being a front vowel, V being any vowel at all)?
by StrangerCoug
Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620495

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

What can I do with /tʃʰ/ that's consistent with /pʰ tʰ kʰ/ → /ɸ θ x/?
by StrangerCoug
Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:00 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Dealing with homophone mergers
Replies: 6
Views: 2093

Re: Rebuilding .sc file given two saved word lists

OK, false alarm—apparently I still have it. Would like some help with the homonyms mentioned, though.
by StrangerCoug
Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:53 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Dealing with homophone mergers
Replies: 6
Views: 2093

Dealing with homophone mergers

I had been keeping separate text files for my Wideriver language family and I accidentally overwrote the Proto-Western Wideriver to Proto-Southwoods .sc file, which I still need, with the changes for the stage after that (to Ancient Southwoods). I put the starting word list and ending word list in ...
by StrangerCoug
Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:08 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620495

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I have a few issues with the transcription: I'm not a big fan of <ii> for /i/ or <uu> for /u/, but the only alternative coming to mind essentially uses English spelling rules instead (<ee> for /i/ and <oo> for /u/), and I'm not sure that makes the transcription all that interesting. MAYBE you can ju...
by StrangerCoug
Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:00 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 39389

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

Now that I think of it, where is the line between a separate case and just something with a marker stuck to it? Could you clarify what you mean by "something with a marker stuck to it"? For example, Japanese uses markers for what seems like a lot of things, yet I come across very few people talking...
by StrangerCoug
Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:14 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 39389

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

Would it be more plausible to just limit some of the location/direction "cases" for derivational morphology, then, along the lines of the "super-" and "sub-" prefixes we got from Latin? (I like your idea; I'm just seeing what I can work with.) Edited to add: Now that I think of it, where is the line...
by StrangerCoug
Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:22 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 39389

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

What are some ways within the scope of this thread to get rid of cases you don't want anymore? I have a protolanguage with 18 cases, and in my notes many of them are supposed to be re-adapted, merged, vestigal, or even gone entirely in daughter languages, in some cases depending on the register. If ...
by StrangerCoug
Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:59 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Seeking help in building my conlang
Replies: 36
Views: 8584

Re: Seeking help in building my conlang

Also, I collapsed the Hodiernal past and future tenses into the present tense. Now it it just hodiernal and present tense. Or would it just be considered Hodiernal? Your phrasing implies just hodiernal, and that seems to be the more plausible solution to me anyway. When linguists speak of categorie...
by StrangerCoug
Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:30 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620495

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I don't think so. Normally that happens regardless of the place of articulation of the nasal consonant.
by StrangerCoug
Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:12 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Seeking help in building my conlang
Replies: 36
Views: 8584

Re: Seeking help in building my conlang

The tenses for actions earlier today and actions later today have the same name—did you mean that? I don't find having both a non-past and different kinds of future tenses plausible because of the overlap. I'd rework the non-past into the present, and then you'd have a (nearly) symmetrical system. I...
by StrangerCoug
Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:37 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620495

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

What are some plausible ways, preferably conditional, to have codas of /k kʰ ɡ ŋ t tʰ d n p pʰ b m s r/ alter the vowel height or backness of /a aː i iː u uː/? The vowels /i iː/ are occuring after /tʃ tʃʰ dʒ nʒ̃/ with too high a frequency to my liking and I want to decrease the relative frequency of...
by StrangerCoug
Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:43 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620495

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Is (C)VʔC > (C)ʔVC plausible, possibly with some middle step? It is to me. It's a simple metathesis, and some languages don't allow vowel-initial syllables, using an epenthetic glottal stop for the required initial consonant. I think Arabic has this rule, but anybody is free to correct me if I'm wr...
by StrangerCoug
Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:00 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Suggestions on "destabilizing" a sound
Replies: 4
Views: 1916

Re: Suggestions on "destabilizing" a sound

I like that idea.
by StrangerCoug
Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:51 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Suggestions on "destabilizing" a sound
Replies: 4
Views: 1916

Re: Suggestions on "destabilizing" a sound

What do you guys think about some of these: Based on an answer I got here , don't do affrication just yet—change these two lines: Tj/Q/_ T/Q/_Y to these two lines: Tj/Ḱ/_ T/Ḱ/_Y and then delete the last five lines and the line defining the affricates. The palatal stops can then become affricates qui...
by StrangerCoug
Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:47 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620495

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

OK, another one: Is it plausible for the distinction between /nʲ/ and /ɲ/ to collapse? If so, which is the more plausible sound to keep (and if it depends, on what)?
by StrangerCoug
Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:42 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620495

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I have a few questions. One of my questions is described in detail here , I made that thread before noticing this one existed and would like to apologize. What are some plausible ways to change /ʔ/ besides elision? Suppose language A has an ejective series of consonants but no aspirated series, whil...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Suggestions on "destabilizing" a sound
Replies: 4
Views: 1916

Suggestions on "destabilizing" a sound

I'm working on several language families for a conworld I'm developing. Proto-Western Wideriver (yeah, I know, all my languages need non-English names; these are placeholders until the conworld is better-developed) has an unusual nasal affricate /nʒ̃/ that developed when the coronals affricated befo...