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- Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Danish phonetics
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3748
Re: Danish phonetics
Another commenter on Wells's blog has given a link to http://fonetik.dk/dansk_udtale/oevelser/ (in Danish) which has lots of recordings of Danish sounds, including the "/ð/", stød, and the vowels. This was mentioned by Wells too, but a lot of the vowels seem to me to be higher than their traditional...
- Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Danish phonetics
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3748
Re: Danish phonetics
Somehow I keep overlooking the said recordings mentioned in the comments, but here it does sound lateral to me when in coda position (between vowels I hear no sound at all or something like [M\]). The recordings mentioned in the comments are at http://da.forvo.com/search/%C3%A6de/ (a recording of "...
- Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:16 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Danish phonetics
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3748
Danish phonetics
An interesting post on John Wells's blog about Danish:
http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/11/danish.html
Do other people (including non-English speakers) agree that the "/ð/" sounds lateral? Based on the recordings mentioned in the comments, my ears do seem to hear it as (English) /l/.
http://phonetic-blog.blogspot.com/2010/11/danish.html
Do other people (including non-English speakers) agree that the "/ð/" sounds lateral? Based on the recordings mentioned in the comments, my ears do seem to hear it as (English) /l/.
- Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:12 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Rarity of the (post)alveolar/retroflex approximant
- Replies: 24
- Views: 7737
Re: Rarity of the (post)alveolar approximant
Ninja edit: Wikipedia 5 languages besides (American) English where the retroflex approximant occurs, including Mandarin. I assume it's phonemic in those languages. No doubt there are more langs that Wikipedia left out, but it still doesn't appear to be frightfully common. UPSID lists 17 languages (...
- Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:57 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 199770
Re: These we at least know ...
For example, the French Indo-Europeanist André Martinet, in his book Des steppes aux océans. L'indo-européen et les "Indo-Européens" , quotes an European substrate root *kan(t)-/*gan(d)- 'stone' (e.g. Spanish canto 'pebble', hence canto rodado 'rolling stone'). This word can be linked to PNC *tɬ’an...
- Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:34 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: 2nd Shift of the Great Vowel Shift
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3185
It should be noted that the merger of most meet and meat -words is actually not traditionally present in all of Anglic, even outside Scots. A range of traditional Anglic dialects, and not just Scots, in the British Isles never merged the two, instead shifting Early New English /eː/ (1) to things su...
- Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:02 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: /t/ versus /d/ and /tS/ versus /dZ/ alternation in NAE
- Replies: 53
- Views: 8919
I sometimes elide the n, especially before [ʔ] (so [kãʔ] for can't), but it's variable, and I'm not sure whether I've adopted this from American varieties or if it is present otherwise in Britain. When I was young, 'can't' was [kanʔ] (whether [a] had nasalisation i'm not sure), and was very difficu...
- Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:41 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: /t/ versus /d/ and /tS/ versus /dZ/ alternation in NAE
- Replies: 53
- Views: 8919
Okay, this is useful information, particularly because it indicates that the /t/ > /d/ in congratulate is something that happened in North America and not something inherited from dialects in the British Isles. On a somewhat off-topic note, it is interesting that you have /nd/ > /ŋ/ or /ŋɡ/ (I cann...
- Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:40 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Ellision of intervocalic voiced stops
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4483
Re: Ellision of intervocalic voiced stops
5. In Irish, intervocalic d and g often disappear, although occasionally a weakly articulated /G/ is pronounced. The original consonant is retained in the spelling <dh>, <gh>. This is part of the process of lenition, and affects even initial consonants, when they follow a word formerly ending in a ...
- Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:46 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Most difficult aspect of your native language for foreigners
- Replies: 128
- Views: 57604
- Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:42 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Yet another question about PIE
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3271
- Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:25 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Canadian Raising
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7026
Is it me, or does it seem that my dialect has completely reversed the overall starting points of historical /aɪ̯/ and /aʊ̯/, both with and without Canadian Raising, compared to most other North American English dialects? It seems that most North American English dialects have a clearly fronted and ...
- Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:15 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: North American English historical /oU_^/
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1985
Re: North American English historical /oU_^/
Conversely, can we say that the supposed distinction between a North American English [oʊ̯] and an English English [əʊ̯] for historical /oʊ̯/ does not hold as true as it once may have? I don't think it ever did. I thought it was well-known that there were parts of the US with a fronted (and unround...
- Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:47 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Vowelless words
- Replies: 40
- Views: 31840
xłp̓x̣ʷłtłpłłskʷc̓ Case closed. You know, I even remember reading that one on Wikipedia, now that I think about it. I'd still want to hear someone pronounce it - I would definitely stick a few vowels in if I tried. The UCLA phonetics archive does have a recording of some of the vowelless words from...
- Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:25 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Sound changes in function words
- Replies: 30
- Views: 6069
Two examples from modern English dialects: 1) The "short A split" of some parts of the eastern US produces "tensing" of /{/ to [e@] or similar before certain consonants, including /n/ and /v/. But function words, like "have" and modal "can", are immune, and retain [{]. Wikipedia has more details. 2)...
- Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:28 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: What is the limit of similarity for allophones?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 13696
In Scouse I understand that some words (like that ) can be pronounced with the last consonant either [h] (utterance finally) or [4] (before a word beginning with a vowel). This looks a lot like [4] and [h] being allophones of the same phoneme. (Paper here , though the encoding of some IPA symbols is...
- Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:11 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: How your idiolect differs from the standard language
- Replies: 371
- Views: 101481
The strut-book split. By this, do you mean that book has the GOOSE vowel (so foot , put , strut and luck have one vowel and book and goose have another - I think of this as the "Stoke" pattern), or that you have the RP pattern with the foot-strut split (so that foot and put have a different vowel f...
- Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:01 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: How your idiolect differs from the standard language
- Replies: 371
- Views: 101481
Well, here is an example of my semi-careful speech I already have up; note that it is not really what I speak in everyday life, but rather how I tend to speak into a microphone. Honestly, even allowing that that's your "microphone voice", you sound completely normal to me. There are slight hints of...
- Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:29 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: How your idiolect differs from the standard language
- Replies: 371
- Views: 101481
[talking about 'aural'] Here's a question, and this one goes out to the general populace: do you make a distinction between 'oral' and 'aural'? They show up in conjunction in linguistics a lot. Let's assume that you don't force a distinction by pronouncing the second with a MOUTH vowel... I'm just ...
- Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:40 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: How your idiolect differs from the standard language
- Replies: 371
- Views: 101481
- /r/ is realised as a labialised postalveolar approximant, [ɹ̱ʷ]. The labialisation is very strong, so that when I was first learning about phonetics I thought /r/ was a labial consonant. The roundedness is of a different sort than that in /w/, but I'm not sure how to describe it. Since [ɹ̱ʷ] neve...
- Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:26 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Quick Gaelic Question
- Replies: 57
- Views: 13763
IIRC, some people pronounce broad and slender <v> [w] and [v] respectively and some with broad and slender <t> and <d> as [t] vs. [tS] and [d] vs. [dZ]. This affricate pronunciation has always struck me as very non-native. West Cork speakers used to realise broad coronal stops as dental when velari...
- Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:31 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Quick Gaelic Question
- Replies: 57
- Views: 13763
I would say the majority of Irish speakers don't realise that the difference between bó and beo is the consonant, not the vowel. They will know the term caolú, but think that it means to add an i (the most common way of writing it, bád -> báid etc.) not palatalize the consonant. Would this still ap...
- Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:04 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Irish Lessons - Ranganna Gaeilge
- Replies: 115
- Views: 94150
I have a question! The acute mark. It appears to be called a 'fada'. However, I've fairly certain my mother pronounces it /fQD@/ (or something that to my english ears sounds like that - Q, not a, and D, not d. Now, a-->Q doesn't seem impossible but why on earth a D? HAve you heard anything like tha...