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Maybe pull off a reverse Spanish with /fari/?

Given that /ʌ/ :> /ɑ/ /ɔ/ :> /ɒ/ /ɛ/ :> /æ/ what is the likelihood of a general change /a/ :> /ə/? Would this also happen in accented (pitch, that is) and long positions or is it more likely to have something like /aː a˥ aː˥/ :> /ɐː ɐ˥ ɐː˥/? I think you’re crowding the bottom edge of the vowel spac...

Most of my modern cultures use the Satheiran system (given name, patronymic, family name), but the Arıvadha had an interesting method of naming. Most people have five names, although the aristocracy may take multiple given names, apart from their titles. First is the family name, which is passed dow...

How would Mthaduri borrow something like [aja]? I don't want it to be a'i'a with three consecutive glottal stops, and asha seems too distant.

Nortaneous wrote:Kócuok hó [ɦó̤] Arve angolg [ɐˈʀuə̯h]

Maelin aħuahъ [aˈχwaxɤ] > Arıvadha ašuvazı [aʂuˈvadzɿ] > Benarvath ashvas [ˈɛʃwɔ̈s], borrowed into Mthaduri as ashbusi [ˈʔaʒbusɪ]

Nortaneous wrote:Prenasalization.

L¹ [meɹũga] Cherun myer'ungar [mʲe˞ːʔɯ̃ŋɑ˞]

Mthaduri mi'una [mɪʔunɜ]

Temporary name: Mthaduri Phoneme inventory: /m n/ m n /p b t d k ʔ/ p b t d k ' * /θ s ʃ χ/ th s sh kh /l ɾ/ l r /i a u/ i a u * The glottal stop is not written word-initially. Allophony: /χ/ is slightly trilled. Fricatives are voiced when preceded by a voiced plosive or nasal. /b/ lenites to [β] in...

Kashmiri: (There are other analyses) /p t̪ ʈ ts tʃ k pʲ t̪ʲ ʈʲ tsʲ kʲ/ p t tr ts tz k py ty try tsy ky /b d̪ ɖ dʒ ɡ bʲ d̪ʲ ɖʲ ɡʲ/ b d dr dz g by dy dry gy /pʰ t̪ʰ ʈʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ pʲʰ t̪ʲʰ ʈʲʰ tsʲʰ kʲʰ/ ph th trh tsh tzh kh phy thy trhy tshy khy /m n ɲ mʲ nʲ/ m n ñ my ny /s ʃ sʲ/ s z sy /z ɦ zʲ ɦʲ/ ż h...

Ahora in (Salvadoran) Spanish, which etymologically comes from häc hörä 'at this hour', means both 'today' and 'now' (in the sense that something has changed in relation to the past). Ahora lo vamos a hacer 'we'll do it today' ~ 'now we're gonna do it (we hadn't done it before on purpose or because...

Lyhoko Leaci wrote:Budisua siisiisiina [ʎ̥˔iʎ̥˔iʎ̥˔inæ] > Proto Desert-Coastal [ɬiɬiɬina] > Zukish ccicine [ˈʧːɪʧɪnɛ]

Mailin cьcьne [tɕɪtɕɪˈnɛ] > Satheira stisne [ˈstisne] > Tomina estyne [esˈtɨne]

Matrix wrote:Proto-Søkkli pórrisintésisa [porːisɪ̃ːtesisa] Ta-lrm-zrq'-k'r purrisnntsisa [pʊɹ.ɹi.sn̩.n̩t.si.sa]

Mailin puŗisъncisa [puɻisɤȵˈtɕisa] > Satheira pulinzdisa [pulɪnzˈdisɐ] > Tomina fynistiza [fɨniˈstiza]

/pʲʰ pʷʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ/ phi ph th khi kh /pʲ pʷ t c k ʔ/ pi p t ki k ʔ /bʲ bʷ d ɟ g/ bi b d gi g /ɓʲ ɓʷ ɗ ʄ/ bhi bh dh gh mʲ mʷ n ɲ ŋ mi m n ngi ng /fʲ fʷ s ɕ x ħ h/ fi f s ś j ħ h /l ʎ ɭ tɬ/ l li rh ł /j ɰ wʲ w/ y ğ wi w /ʘh |h !h ǁh ǂh/ vh ch qh xh çh /ʘ | ! ǁ ǂ/ v c q x ç /nʘ n| n! nǁ nǂ/ mv nc nq nx ...

Nasals: [m n] m n
Stops: [p b t̪ d̪ k g] p b t d k g
Fricatives: [f v s z ʃ ʒ] f v s z sh j
Affricates: [ts dz tʃ dʒ] tz dz tj dj
Approximants: [j] y
Trills: [r] r
Laterals: [l] l

Vowels: [i u e o æ ɒ] i u e o ae a

Just un-Englishing it a bit.

Maybe pooling /ˈpuːlɪŋ/ and grueling /ˈgɹuːəlɪŋ/? It doesn't really matter, I rhyme them too. piling [ˈpʰaɛ̯ɫɪŋ] fouling [ˈfa̟ʌ̯ɫɪŋ] foiling [ˈfo̞e̯̽ɫɪŋ] peeling [ˈpʰi̞e̯̽ɫɪŋ] mailing [ˈme̞e̯̽ɫɪŋ] polling [ˈpʰo̞ʊ̠̯ɫɪŋ] firing [ˈfaɛ̯ɰ˞ɪŋ] flouring [ˈfla̟ɔ̯ɰ˞ɪŋ] Moira [ˈmo̞ɜ̯ɰ˞ɜ] All glides preceding ...

Poplar wrote:Epœcuɒtœ œpecquɒraotqœ [ɶbecʼu͡ɒɾa͡otʼɶ] → *awpečˀwaratˀaw → Catlalian opetçóra [ɦɔpɛˈtʃoɾɐ] (*-tˀaw got interpreted as the genitive suffix, but the citation form of Catlalian nouns is the nominative)

Mailin ħopecora [χɔpɛˈtɕɔɾa] > Arıvadha obiśara [obiˈɕaːɾɐ] > Benarvath [ʌuˈsɪjar]

Nortaneous wrote:Epœcuɒtœ sykhi [sykʰi] Ingomoe sykí [ˈsyki] Hanheliubl fyk [fɤʔ]

English fuck [ˈfʌk̚]
It had to be done.

Mailin: Phoneme inventory: /m n ɳ ȵ ŋ/ m n ņ ń ŋ /p pʰ b t tʰ d ʈ ʈʰ ɖ tɕ tɕʰ dʑ k kʰ g q qʰ/ p ph b t th d ţ ţh ḑ c ch j k kh g q qh /(ɸ) s ʂ ɕ x χ/ f s ş ś h ħ /w l ɾ ɻ j/ w l r ŗ y /i ɪ ɛ a ɔ ɤ u ai au ɛi ɛu/ i ь e a o ъ u ai au ei eu /ɸ/ is only found in loanwords. Allophony: The voiced stops /b...

Does anyone have "external" as a noun, short for "external hard drive"? I do, and it's stressed on the second syllable, whereas the adjective is stressed on the first: [ˈɛkstɚnəl (h)ɑɹd dɹaɪ̯v] :> [ɛksˈtɚnəl]. I say "external", but both the noun and the adjective are stressed on the second syllable...

All right, I'm completely redoing the Mailin phonology. Questions at the end of the post. Phoneme inventory: /m n ɳ ȵ ŋ/ m n ņ ń ŋ /p pʰ b t tʰ d ʈ ʈʰ ɖ tɕ tɕʰ dʑ k kʰ g q qʰ/ p ph b t th d ţ ţh ḑ c ch j k kh g q qh /(ɸ) s ʂ ɕ x χ/ f s ş ś h ħ /w l ɾ ɻ j/ w l r ŗ y /i ɪ ɛ a ɔ ɤ u ai au ɛi ɛu/ i ь e ...

Vardelm wrote:

Nortaneous wrote:k͡ʟ̝̊ːʷ gǂ͡˞χˀ ᶣɞ̂ˑ ʬ^ᴙ!

Is that IPA or bindary code opened in Notepad?

If it were binary code, there would almost certainly be a Hanzi character, so no.

What about a reverse of the unpacking change e.g. [tn] -> [n̥]. I'm thinking of having the two sounds in free variation. I'd expect a /hn/ intermediate to be probable for both sn → n̥ and tn → n̥, but if you're having n̥ → tn anyway, leaving them in free variation is not a problem. There are two ma...

Tomina: This is actually supposed to have an SAE phonology, so... 1. Absence of any phonemic POA for stops further back than velar [half mark for only one stop-POA behind velar, or for prominent allophonic stops behind velar] 2. Phonemic voicing [half mark if voicing is only part of the distinction]...

Poplar wrote:Northern Káipoi kiraisotá [cprēzdá]

i for [p]? This makes no sense.

Kind of Polish for the sibilants, I'll see how this turns out. /p t ts tʂ tɕ k q/ p t c cz ć*** k q /pʰ tʰ tsʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ kʰ qʰ/ ph th ch czh ćh*** kh qh /b d dz dʐ dʑ g/ b d dz dż dź*** g /ɸ s ʂ ɕ x χ h/ f s sz* ś*** xh x ḩ /v z ʐ ʁ ɦ/ v ż z rz h /ɬ l/ lh l /m n ɲ ŋ/ m nh** ń*** n** /a aː ɑ ɑː e eː ə ...

Enzielu nijeerĕxilĕ [ɲiʝeːð̞ɛˈʃiɾɛ] :> as of yet unnamed language niisiazasivra [ɲi.ʎ̥˔æ.ɮœ.ɬi.ⱱæ] Tomina nišelysiva [niʃelɨˈsiva] < Satheira nixeurisibdas [niˌxɛuliˈsibdɐh] < Maelin [nɪˈqʰɛɨwɜriː ˈsiːpʰɜdaːs] > Arıvadha nıċıvarisvadha [n̩tʂʐ̩vaɽizvað̞a] > Benarvath nzovarisbeth [zɔwrisˈbɛˤ] Yes, I...