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by Cathbad
Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:31 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Hebrew Lessons / Shi`urey Ha`ivrit
Replies: 118
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rotzeh, rotzah, rotzim, rotzot; lirtzot (god... the infinitive is just so much simpler in Arabic : p) 'ani ro'eh 'otam hu' rotzeh lihloch late'atron hi' 'oh?vet lirqod hem ohavim s?ndvitshim me'oh 'anahnu qonim tapuzim bachanut hi' rotzah lifgosh (?) 'otam 'ani 'ohev 'otach 'at rotzah lichtov micht...
by Cathbad
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:56 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
Views: 30494

razne km?te in m@glo ...peasants and fog? I think I see more or less what you're getting at here. The trick here actually is the pronunciation. Firstly, the Ljubljana dialect tends to 'lengthen' vowels (or so we were taught) - so [m@gla] becomes [mEgla]. Secondly, the vowel in the noun kmet [kmEt] ...
by Cathbad
Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:31 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Hebrew Lessons / Shi`urey Ha`ivrit
Replies: 118
Views: 62150

Lesson 4:


masculine; masculine; feminine; feminine; feminine (m. po`?l?); feminine; masculine; masculine; feminine.

ch?sot
limonim
`ugot
pilpelim
`anavim
betzalim
gzarim
tapuzim
lechamim
ban?not
glidot

'aratzot (?)
by Cathbad
Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:50 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
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1. star avto (masculine, remember?) grda ?ena lepo mesto svetla luč - the schwa is dropped 2. stara filozofa sta igrala igro zamenjal sem staro ?arnico dal sem starcu vroč čaj - again, the schwa is dropped. Also, note that you've forgotten to include the 'to be' forms. I'll correct t...
by Cathbad
Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:45 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
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LESSON 4 4.1. The weird noun declensions The masculine and feminine genders each have their own standard endings. The nouns that end in them are declined by the first declensions, which have already been covered. However, nouns that don't end in the standard endings have their own declensions. THE ...
by Cathbad
Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:24 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Hebrew Lessons / Shi`urey Ha`ivrit
Replies: 118
Views: 62150

This is great! Makes me want to study Arabic too (cognates and links between languages make me unreasonably happy). On a related note - is le , by any chance, a cognate of Arabic لِ l(i) ? (I'd expect that usage is somewhat different, especially regarding expression of posession, but I'...
by Cathbad
Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:20 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
Views: 30494

??? What's your source on this? Maybe it centralises phonetically, but it's certainly not [ i ]... I'd go for a [@\] at most, or maybe even [1], but even that'd be pretty dialectal, in my opinion... The SSKJ states it as [e], inevitably. And why would loanwords be exceptions? (They usually aren't, ...
by Cathbad
Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:41 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
Views: 30494

cerkev ["ts)erk@u_^] I thought you'd forgotten the /e/ -> /i/ (/_r/) rule, but this one confused me. I know this sound change might have gone the other way round in your dialect, but the standard pronunciation is ["ts)irk@u_^]. So, this is the rule: /e/ changes to /i/ before /r/ in stressed syllabl...
by Cathbad
Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:11 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
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LESSON 3 3.1. Objects Slovene verbs take two types of objects - direct and indirect (I think), which are marked by the accusative (or genitive - remember?) and dative cases, respectively. All objects tend to follow the verb. If a personal pronoun is used for emphasis, however, the indirect object t...
by Cathbad
Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:25 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Hebrew Lessons / Shi`urey Ha`ivrit
Replies: 118
Views: 62150

I'll have a go:

hu' shoter
'anachnu choshvim
hu' ro'eh k?lev
'at 'ochelet tap?ach
'ani holech
hem rochdim
by Cathbad
Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:48 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
Views: 30494

Is the plural suffix for the 2nd person used in polite situations? I've noticed in one of my resources that "Can you speak English?" is "Ali govorite angle?ko?" Actually, it is, I just wanted someone else to introduce it. Polite situations are classified as: -children talking to adults; -adults tal...
by Cathbad
Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:50 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
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It doesn't really matter, because, in this case, slovensko is an adverb. (However, if it were used as an into-noun-transformed adjective-like word, the form would be slovenskega . It, however, is not; the closest you can get is ne govor?m slov?nskega jezika 'I don't speak the Slovene language'. But ...
by Cathbad
Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:47 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
Views: 30494

slov?nsko, not -a. :)

And the two j's actually do fuse, I think, phonetically at least. However, this is not a rule for non-sonorants; stops and fricatives are always pronounced separately. A textbook example is oddati [Oddati] 'to give (away), to submit'.
by Cathbad
Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:33 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
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Perfectly correct, except for: Anotae: first person dual is odpre va . Also note that, when conjugating, the ? opens into ? (I've no idea why). It's still accentuated though. And the horrible genitive of zemlja is ze melj , with the inserted 'e' being a schwa. This almost always happens to break inv...
by Cathbad
Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:13 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
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This is two days early, but since I've found out that it's no use studying for tomorrow's Anthropology essay, I ended up writing this. Hope you don't mind. Lesson 2 2.1. Nouns and their gender As many other languages, Slovene has grammatical genders. Three of them: -masculine ( mo?ki spol ) -femini...
by Cathbad
Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:24 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
Views: 30494

chris-gr wrote:Cathbad, this is a great therad. Could I ask you for one little thing? After you're finished with the Grammar, please post some things about onomastics, that' d be great! :)


No problem... :D (I'll definitely include some snippets before, as the Grammar will, probably, take quite a while.)
by Cathbad
Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:44 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
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midva/midve - we two vidva/vidve - you two ?nadv?/?nidv?/?nidv? - they two Question - why are these considered dual pronouns? I mean, clearly the first half comes from the plural pronouns, and the second half is from the pan-Slavic "dva" = two. Or is "two" no longer pronounced dva/dve in Slovenian?...
by Cathbad
Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:48 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
Views: 30494

Hvala lepa! The pronunciation guide is nice. I now know how to pronounce <h> Welcome. My first question: since the first and second person dual pronouns only distinguish masc/fem, which one do you use for a pair of one male and one female? Based on other IE languages I'd guess the masculine form is...
by Cathbad
Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:11 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine
Replies: 59
Views: 30494

Slovene Lessons - Ucne ure slovenscine

Following the fact that a grand total of two people (as of yet) expressed a kind of interest for this, I will start my humble enterprise with a simple introduction. LESSON 1 Prva učna ura * * učna ura , literally 'learning hour', is as closest a translation of 'lesson' as you can get in Sl...