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Why do small consonant inventories and simple syllable structure tend to go hand in hand?

Basically what Yng said:

"Is he badass?" or "He is badass." "And how (badass he is)!"

Meaning not just "yes," but "yes beyond expectation."

Nortaneous wrote:Going through all the organized phonology datas on SIL PNG --

Been checkin' out this nifty resource (thanks!). Just me or are very few PNG consonant inventories not < 12 consonants?

And as it turns out, the phoneme they are calling /d/ does pattern with /b/ in at least one setting: /a/ is nasalized word initially and when preceded by /h/ or a voiced stop: /aθi/ → [ãθi] 'grass', /ɔha/ → [ɔhã] 'armadillo'; this in turn nasalizes a preceding /b/ or /d/: /bahadu/ → [mãhãdu] 'group'...

Not really that strange: if /d ɗ/ is really /t d/ on the level of abstract features, then you get /b t d t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k/, which is completely reasonable. /b t d t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k/ is indeed less weird...but I have not seen that cited as Karajá's plosive inventory anywhere, and it seems to be a pretty well-docum...

Are you Canadian, clawgrip?

Not really that strange: if /d ɗ/ is really /t d/ on the level of abstract features, then you get /b t d t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k/, which is completely reasonable. /b t d t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k/ is indeed less weird...but I have not seen that cited as Karajá's plosive inventory anywhere, and it seems to be a pretty well-docum...

And here we have its sister lang, Apinayé, also with 12: /p t c k ʔ m n ɲ ŋ v r z /.

I repeat: /z/ without /s/! Apinayé's only fricatives are voiced!

Strange things happen in the Amazon...

Karajá. Really now, the fuck is this supposed to be?.

The voiceless plosive: /k/
The voiced plosives: /b d/
The implosive: /ɗ/
The affricates: /t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
The fricatives: /θ ʃ h/
The lateral: /l/
The tap: /ɾ/
The glide: /w/

Can't tell if serious...

Sakir wrote:

Matrix wrote:Well, shit. Thanks, everyone. Didn't expect the Golems to make it to the top.

Makes me wonder what will be more prominent: Golems subjecting Humans or Humans subjecting Golems

I believe Matrix's victory implies the former.

Which makes for an interesting premise!

I'm liking the general 'vibe,' the 'spirit' of what I'm seeing here. I think it will be interesting to watch this lang develop, and I look forward to seeing those killer Ps flying around. Now for some phonological critique: /d k/ as plosive system...can't. I'd either add /t/, replace /d/ with /t/, o...

touchy touchy

That's cute. Was there anything on the other side?

Nortaneous wrote:I don't think there's such a thing as an implosive fricative.

Unattested perhaps, but certainly physically possible.

So Haleza Grise wrote:Maybe I'm being unimaginative, but I think an underwater communication could only be based on tone. Other kinds of phonetic distinctions aren't likely to be very clear.

Water is a much better medium for sound to travel in than air. Sound is much clearer under it.

Flat.

Janko Gorenc wrote:But I do not know how to change the text on my profile.

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Why those particular languages, out of the 14,810 you had in your archive as of 11/9 (and is that November 9 or September 11?)?

Or are they your own conlangs?

ObsequiousNewt wrote:One does not simply... conclude a thread.

Do you deny that at the time of posting, it was the last post in the thread?

I am...concluding. I think.

In conclusion, if natlangs were conlangs, they would be the most incredible conlangs ever. They would have a caliber of realism that no one here could come close to matching. Some of them would be mind-boggling complex, and make most of the langs presented here look like the work of toddlers. That i...

you should probs just write a short description of what each case does as they are not all autoexplanicative

MisterBernie wrote:

cromulant wrote:I see tits.

much constructive, very contribution

I owe you an apology. I think that was my worst post ever. I expect there will be a ten minute hate for me now, and I deserve it, I just hope it happens not in this thread.

I see tits.

The languages of Europe all seem rather European, what with all the voiced fricatives and voicing as the only phonation distinction and whatnot. Not that there's anything wrong with that IF that's what you're trying to do. It's just that we don't know whether this was a conscious choice or the resul...