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by Zaarin
Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630087

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

2. Are /θˠ~θˤ/ and /θ/, /ɸˠ/ and /ɸ/ likely to remain stable as seperate phonemes? And if not, how might their later forms/reflexes remain distinctive? The distinction between pharyngealized and plain consonants has been stable in Arabic and Aramaic for a couple millennia at least, so I'd say you'r...
by Zaarin
Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:44 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The word "gal".
Replies: 21
Views: 5912

Re: The word "gal".

To clarify, what I meant is that "guy" (singular) is never gender neutral, but "guys" (particularly but not exclusively in the phrase "you guys") can be based on context. The only people I've ever known to get upset over the phrase "you guys" are Southerners, where the default second person plural i...
by Zaarin
Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:10 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 663885

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

symphony [ˈsɪɱfəni]
infinitive [ɪnˈfɪnəɾɪv] (yes, that's an [n])
Caleb [ˈkʰɛɪ̯ɫəb]
by Zaarin
Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The word "gal".
Replies: 21
Views: 5912

Re: The word "gal".

...huh? I hear 'gal' all the time, generally as the feminine counterpart to 'guy'. Then again, I work in an industry that's male-dominated, and with terms that have historically used "guy"—so, at my company when using those terms, we'll throw in 'gal' also. For example, "We're looking for a couple ...
by Zaarin
Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630087

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Perhaps they could denasalize to /p t/?
by Zaarin
Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:39 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 66185

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

The notion of PIE speakers being Mongol-like nomadic steppe horsemen is a strawman the proponents of the Anatolian hypothesis and of Paleolithic Continuity like to whack. Nobody believes in this anymore. The last hypothesis for PIE expansion that I heard... OK, the last one I heard was just that ev...
by Zaarin
Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 66185

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

The notion of PIE speakers being Mongol-like nomadic steppe horsemen is a strawman the proponents of the Anatolian hypothesis and of Paleolithic Continuity like to whack. Nobody believes in this anymore. The last hypothesis for PIE expansion that I heard... OK, the last one I heard was just that ev...
by Zaarin
Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 66185

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

I once had a Vietnamese classmate who the entire rest of the class thought was Mexican. I was sort of astonished. My brother was mistaken for Mexican in high school, too. A lot of Americans seem to have a bad habit of thinking anyone with black hair and a skintone between white and black is Mexican...
by Zaarin
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:14 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 66185

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

- the na-dene samples were american with a dash of asian (90-10). This doesn't seem surprising - while the na-dene have long been considered linguistically and culturally distinct, a later migration, most athabaskans have been known for a while to be pretty amerindian in genetics. This suggests a c...
by Zaarin
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 663885

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Ironically, I'm not really a learner of English, and haven't been for years in the sense that I've always been exposed to it since I was born (and learning since I was 5) because, being born in Finland (arguably the most Americanised country in Europe; I mean, every time I watch videos on Youtube a...
by Zaarin
Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 66185

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

Thanks for the info; it confirmed what I suspected. :) I'll look into it more deeply when I'm feeling better. As far as the revitalization goes, last I heard Haida still had a dwindling elderly population of speakers who spoke a simplified form of the language (which Mithun notes is the usual sign o...
by Zaarin
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 663885

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

therapeutic Something like [θe̞ɾɐpju̟ːt̪ik~θɜɾa̠pjəʊ̯t̪ik~t̪ʰe̞ɾɐpjʉ̟ːt̪ik~t̪ʰɜɾa̠pju̟ːt̪ik]. I swear, if Americans/native English-speakers would hear that as "thettapeutic" and wouldn't understand, I'd facepalm so hard I'd need therapy... :P pulchritudinous delitescent synderesis By process of eli...
by Zaarin
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Prescriptivism strikes back
Replies: 10
Views: 3345

Re: Prescriptivism strikes back

The problem is people really tried hard to speak properly during the communist period in Poland and many adults raised in this time have a weird feeling of what is appropriate and good. Do people in other, especially Anglophone countries care less about that as there existed and still exists region...
by Zaarin
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Something interesting about West Coast American English
Replies: 44
Views: 11236

Re: Something interesting about West Coast American English

in my variety of American English, I have father/bother/cot/caught all with the same vowel, and talk/walk/stalk are pronounced with the same /a/ as father (tock/wok/stock), with no remnants of the /l/ present in the spelling. My father was horrified to learn that I did not pronounce the /l/ in talk...
by Zaarin
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:27 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call this?
Replies: 302
Views: 91784

Re: What do you call this?

Not a word I've ever used, but I've heard my dad use the term "rubbernecking."
by Zaarin
Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:25 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call this?
Replies: 302
Views: 91784

Re: What do you call this?

Vijay wrote:
KathTheDragon wrote:Boringly, "not show up".
I would probably use the same. I would also accept "flake out," "ghost," and "stand me up."
To me, "stand someone up" specifically refers to a date.

"Not show up" for me, too.
by Zaarin
Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:08 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call this?
Replies: 302
Views: 91784

Re: What do you call this?

Well, if you have all that in a hot dog, then you certainly don't need ketchup. :P Oh, Americans and messy-ass food... This is in accord with the American national character. Like the electric guitar, and NASCAR, and President Trump. However, the Correct hot dog preparation is with sauerkraut. The ...
by Zaarin
Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461388

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Soap wrote:I find /kʷtr/- an unlikely word-initial cluster
Why so? Many languages allow labiovelars in clusters. Cf. the Alaskan town of Yakutat, from Tlingit Yaakwdáat /jaːkʷtáːtʰ/.
by Zaarin
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:23 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Internet slang dating: is IIRC a somehow aging abbreviation?
Replies: 26
Views: 8582

Re: Internet slang dating: is IIRC a somehow aging abbreviat

the laughter in this case being a sort of default reaction when I'm not really sure how to respond emotionally I laugh when I'm upset. Which makes me more frustrated and upset, because my brain is aware that it's the incorrect response (and also because people don't exactly treat you like you're up...
by Zaarin
Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:00 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "elder brother" and "elder sister".
Replies: 10
Views: 3425

Re: "elder brother" and "elder sister".

Some think "big brother" and "big sister" sound childish and sound more like how a child would refer to their older siblings. Yeah, I'd pretty much only use "big/little" with "brother" or "sister" when I was consciously trying to invoke childhood associations. Well, the last time I hung around sibl...
by Zaarin
Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:35 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "elder brother" and "elder sister".
Replies: 10
Views: 3425

Re: "elder brother" and "elder sister".

Disclaimer: I'm an only child. However, "elder brother" and "older brother" both sound rather formal to me; in my experience most siblings seem to prefer the term "big brother/big sister" informally. However, especially in a joking context, it wouldn't sound strange to me to hear a younger sibling c...
by Zaarin
Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:29 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461388

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Well, if theyre direct cognates, it would have to involve either metathesis of /u/ or deletion of it, so either way it'd be irregular. If its just / kʷet-/ its likely to have just meant "pair(ed)" in both languages. I'm not sure if /kʷe/>/ku/ is normal or not for Hittite. Hittite <ku> is /kʷ/.
by Zaarin
Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:12 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Indo-Semitic concept bogolang
Replies: 23
Views: 6674

Re: Indo-Semitic concept bogolang

[*]Make voiced stops emphatic, then make the voiced aspirates simply voiced. That seems possible but unlikely IMO. I think a more Armenian-esque shift would make more sense: P > Pʼ B > P Bʱ > B The reason why I suggested converting the plain voiced stops to emphatics is it preserves the relative ma...
by Zaarin
Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:25 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Internet slang dating: is IIRC a somehow aging abbreviation?
Replies: 26
Views: 8582

Re: Internet slang dating: is IIRC a somehow aging abbreviat

I think there is a generational issue, yes. But there's also a subcultural issue. Most of the internet abbreviations, ime, are primarily used by what you might call internet 'natives' - people who use the internet extensively, not merely as a tool for organising their RL, and who use parts of the i...
by Zaarin
Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 156414

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

My /s/ and /z/ are dental, if not interdental. You have a lisp like Jamie? JAL To my knowledge, dental sibilants are extremely common in some varieties of American English. The tip of my tongue is pressed against my teeth when I form a sibilant; it is nevertheless entirely distinct from [θ], which ...