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- Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:14 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal Eng
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18899
Re: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal
I thought the 2nd plural pronoun is actually being revived in American English - y'all is becoming more common outside the south, and those people who use y'all for 2nd singular are saying all y'all . In addition, you guys seems is considered "normal" in the northeast (probably will be standard the...
- Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:07 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: More English vowels
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4154
Re: More English vowels
"wash" historically had the same vowel as in "crash" and "smash". Then vowel rounding occurred causing the TRAP vowel to become rounded after "w" hence the present pronunciations of "wander", "wasp", "wash", "want", "wand", "watch" etc. The rounding didn't occur before velar consonants as in "wagon"...
- Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:24 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal Eng
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18899
Re: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal
"we all live in the yellow submarine. yellow submarine. yellow submarine". Lyrics to a Beatles song.
- Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:03 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Occurrence of spelling pronunciations
- Replies: 35
- Views: 15794
Occurrence of spelling pronunciations
They seem to occur mostly in words which are often learned first in reading. For instance, "kiln" is a word that's commonly first encountered in reading and so commonly has a spelling pronunciation with a sounded "n". However that's not always the case. "often" and "clothes" have spelling pronunciat...
- Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Something interesting about West Coast American English
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11237
Re: Something interesting about West Coast American English
As far as I know, the historical development in standard English is as follows: /l/ lost in -alk words resulting in /ɔːk/, which makes sense if we assume it was some kind of vocalization of /l/ to [w] in this context that occured before the change of [au] (=[aw]) to /ɔː/. (I don't know if we actual...
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:16 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal Eng
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18899
Re: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal
Will singular "they" be as acceptable as singular "you" currently is in formal English in the future? Is singular "you" acceptable in formal English? In my day, one was instructed to use "one". Yes, using "you" as a singular pronoun is acceptable. It used to be only a plural pronoun. "thou" and "th...
- Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:35 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal Eng
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18899
Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal Eng
Will singular "they" be as acceptable as singular "you" currently is in formal English in the future? I wish it would. In a commercial I heard "Your doctor wouldn't do your job, so why should you do hers.". They apparently had to pick a gender for the doctor since singular "they" was considered unac...
- Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:17 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The word "gal".
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5912
Re: The word "gal".
"Guy" is not gender-neutral. When you say something like "we need a Linux guy", everyone will picture a man. My example was bad because of the use of the plural; I much more often hear it in the singular. Another example is that our weekly reminder to fill out our timesheets frequently includes som...
- Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:45 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Something interesting about West Coast American English
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11237
Re: Something interesting about West Coast American English
Brit here, and I don't believe I have ever heard the l pronounced in any of these words, except maybe "balm" I might insert an /l/ there because it's an uncommon word to hear in conversation and overpronouncing it would aid comprehension, but it's not there in my spontaneous pronunciation. I hear s...
- Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:37 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The word "gal".
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5912
The word "gal".
This word apparently came from a nonrhotic pronunciation of the word "girl". How did nonrhotic "girl" give rise to "gal" however? It seems like a major change in the vowel. The word seems to be nearly extinct now. I mainly hear it among old people.
- Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:15 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "You can't eat your cake and have it too".
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2289
"You can't eat your cake and have it too".
This is the original expression and the one that makes sense. You can't eat your cake and still have it. The nonsensical "you can't have your cake and eat it too" has become more common.
- Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:46 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "elder brother" and "elder sister".
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3425
Re: "elder brother" and "elder sister".
Disclaimer: I'm an only child. However, "elder brother" and "older brother" both sound rather formal to me; in my experience most siblings seem to prefer the term "big brother/big sister" informally. However, especially in a joking context, it wouldn't sound strange to me to hear a younger sibling ...
- Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:27 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Him and I.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2950
Him and I.
The lyrics to a recently released song "In the end, it's him and I".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA7AIQw-7Ms
That sounds strange to me. Mixing an object pronoun and a subject pronoun. I'd expect "it's him and me", or in really formal speech maybe "it's he and I". "It's him and I" sounds strange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA7AIQw-7Ms
That sounds strange to me. Mixing an object pronoun and a subject pronoun. I'd expect "it's him and me", or in really formal speech maybe "it's he and I". "It's him and I" sounds strange.
- Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:02 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "elder brother" and "elder sister".
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3425
"elder brother" and "elder sister".
Do these seem old fashioned to you? Personally I'd always say "older brother" and "older sister". "elder" sounds a bit old fashioned.
- Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:15 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Why don't British singers sing with a British accent?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 5527
Re: Why don't British singers sing with a British accent?
In the song "Mrs. Brown, You've Got a Lovely Daughter" by Herman's Hermits, the singer uses a British accent.
- Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:44 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng" wor
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5612
Re: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng"
[similarly, some people think there's an /h/ in /S/ and /T/. But this is less common, probably because we don't have any productive, shibbolethical "dropping the H" process]. Also, "sh" and "th" are usually taught as digraphs representing /S/ and /T/ when teachers are teaching phonics to students. ...
- Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:54 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 663912
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
A kid I went to high school with was from California, however he spoke nonrhotically due to a speech impediment. People would always ask him where he was from.
- Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:00 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng" wor
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5612
Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng" wor
https://books.google.com/books?id=5f5dAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=%22where+is+the+g%22+%22phonetics+for+dummies%22&source=bl&ots=1xO09Huxky&sig=wruct6LZmciPrPlwzAc2HfSPiyM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7oMmqy_DWAhUi3YMKHcmgCPkQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=%22where%20is%20the%20g%22%20%22phonetics%20for%20dummies%...
- Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:32 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Why don't British singers sing with a British accent?
- Replies: 15
- Views: 5527
Why don't British singers sing with a British accent?
Why is it that British singers such as the Beatles don't sing with a British accent?
- Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:35 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 663912
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
How do you pronounce "caramel"? I pronounce it as "carmel".
- Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:19 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 663912
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
I pronounce that as "pritty". Does anyone rhyme the word with "petty"?Pole, the wrote:“pretty”
- Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:01 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is "trypophobia" a word?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5314
Re: Is "trypophobia" a word?
Oh, is "trypa" not a valid Ancient Greek noun? It seems to be listed in LSJ , although I don't know what the exact time boundaries are for that dictionary. It seems odd to me that a longer word based on the root would exist in Ancient Greek, but the shorter word that seems to lack the affix only ca...
- Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:45 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "ain't" in Merriam-Webster's and mention of "Black English"
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2160
"ain't" in Merriam-Webster's and mention of "Black English"
There was a petition to remove the reference of "Black English" from Merriam-Webster's definition of "ain't" because it was viewed as offensive and discriminatory. https://www.change.org/p/promoting-education-or-discrimination-vote-today-to-make-a-change?source_location=topic_page Looks like the pet...
- Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:36 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is "trypophobia" a word?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5314
Is "trypophobia" a word?
Is "trypophobia" a word? I've seen it used online often for the fear of holes. However no dictionaries recognize it.
- Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:34 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 663912
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
How do you pronounce "Halloween"? I pronounce it like "Hallow ween", but I've heard some people pronounce the word as if it were "Holloween". There was a separate thread on this a while back: H/æ/lloween versus H/ɑ/lloween I wonder if the "Holloween" pronunciation originates from people mistakenly ...