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by Pole, the
Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:04 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: What are you reading, watching and listening to?
Replies: 469
Views: 139701

Re: What are you reading, watching and listening to?

Also, he has a linguistic peculiarity: he pronounces «-ction» words as /-ktʃən/. Ever come across that before?
by Pole, the
Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:47 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng" wor
Replies: 21
Views: 5614

Re: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng"

Hmm, are we using "offglide" in the same way? I understood "nasal offlglide" in the Pole's comment to refer to the use of nasalized semi-vowelic glides like [ɔw̃]. It's hard for me to imagine how something like [w̃] would assimilate in POA to the following consonant (would it become something like ...
by Pole, the
Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:25 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng" wor
Replies: 21
Views: 5614

Re: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng"

Where it becomes a problem is actually for /n/ and /m/ at the end of words in English, as the Japanese coda-/n/ (ん) is underspecified for POA and actually sounds like [ɴ] or [ŋ] a lot of the time. Isn't it common to pronounce /Vɴ/ as vowels with nasal offglides, not unlike French «in un an on» or P...
by Pole, the
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:09 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Contradictory Feelings Thread
Replies: 933
Views: 211757

Re: The Contradictory Feelings Thread

As they say: hate the job, love the money, overthrow the bourgeoisie.
by Pole, the
Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:54 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng" wor
Replies: 21
Views: 5614

Re: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng"

Also, while are native realizations of «ng» as [ŋɡ], AFAIK there are no native realizations of «th dh» as [th dh]. There are, in compound words, e.g. shithole , masthead madhouse , handhold . Well, fair point. Still, these are undisputably distinct from /θ ð/. What about “threshold”? Is this a case...
by Pole, the
Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:44 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461764

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I was toying with a similar idea, playing off of Carrasquer Vidal's model. If the basic difference between *ke- and *ka- (so-called plain velars) is the original vowel quality, not vowel coloring, even though both vowels correspond to *e in almost any other position, what if the difference between ...
by Pole, the
Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:12 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Word Order and Nominal Cases
Replies: 9
Views: 3430

Re: Word Order and Nominal Cases

The attachment is a visual summary of my findings. Using a linear graph to visualize a discrete scale (e.g. a number of grammatical cases) is a bad practice. Consider using a different type of a graph. Basically, most languages in general have 1 (that is, no) case, with SVO languages making up the ...
by Pole, the
Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:51 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Odd pronunciation of a Chinese name
Replies: 26
Views: 7633

Re: Odd pronunciation of a Chinese name

Mandarin pronunciation is a minefield, so it's ironic that this particular name is quite easy— they could approximate it quite well as "way-June". Well, it's only easy if you expect other languages to share the English quirk of using «j» for a stop consonant. «ei» as /ai/ surely looks German, but «...
by Pole, the
Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:40 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng" wor
Replies: 21
Views: 5614

Re: Many people apparently think there's a [g] sound in "ng"

After all, if you "drop the G" from "walking", you get "walkin'", with an /n/... it's got an apostrophe and everything! And surely if 'dropping the G' were just turning something from /N/ to /n/ - a change with no loss of elements or gain in simplicity - then it wouldn't be such a common indicator ...
by Pole, the
Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:46 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
Replies: 6633
Views: 764148

Re: Help your conlang fluency

Goka gopıbouŋ di gogepaı.
Rivers are wet and long.
by Pole, the
Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:19 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Venting thread that still excludes eddy (2)
Replies: 2639
Views: 317743

Re: Venting thread

As a child, I first learned „chuj” in the meaning of a bad behaving male (a “dickhead”), and only later I realized it's vulgar for “penis”. On the other hand, I learned „pedał” is a bad word after I used it in its non-slur meaning (“pedal”) and then was accused by an adult of using it unknowingly as...
by Pole, the
Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:29 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Cultural approaches to handbooks
Replies: 17
Views: 4343

Re: Cultural approaches to handbooks

That reminds me of that old anecdote - a German, an Englishman, and a Frenchman are tasked with writing about lions. The German locks himself in a library for twenty years and writes a ten-volume universal history of the lion, compiling and evaluating everything that has ever been written about lio...
by Pole, the
Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:45 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Venting thread that still excludes eddy (2)
Replies: 2639
Views: 317743

Re: Venting thread

So right now I'm pretty infuriated by IT(...) but for some reason on my laptop I had made a typo That's weird that your mailing software didn't catch that. I'm not an expert of mailing protocols, but I tried an equivalent thing using Gmail as the client and it complained instantly at not being able...
by Pole, the
Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630460

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Tropylium wrote:
Pole, the wrote:/k ɡ/ → /kː ɡː/ // [V+short]_ → (dissimilation) /tk dɡ/ → /tsk dɡ/?
Geminate dissimilation is not really a thing that happens.
It might be anecdotal, but Polish miękki, lekki → dialectal/colloquial miętki, letki.
by Pole, the
Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:34 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Venting thread that still excludes eddy (2)
Replies: 2639
Views: 317743

Re: Venting thread

Firefox has changed its settings layout and now instead of a neatly structured preferences tool, they've dumped everything on one page, Chrome-style.
by Pole, the
Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:17 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
Replies: 6633
Views: 764148

Re: Help your conlang fluency

masako wrote:
Pole, the wrote:Noice.
nyasampa
Thank you very much.
(It's funny because I changed «baıb» /baɨb/ “to be good” to «boıb» /bɤɨb/ “???” to match the English “noice“ non-standard pronunciation.)

Tegambneiŋ kvu ragnırıŋjoı do tako-doı?
Aren't your links supposed to be the other way around, by the way?
by Pole, the
Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:39 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 664510

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

“pretty”
by Pole, the
Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: A Very Brief Explanation of the British Election
Replies: 323
Views: 97414

Re: A Very Brief Explanation of the British Election

In the interests of accuracy, might it be worth either renaming this thread, or starting a new one? It could be called "The British Politics Thread" or similar. Sal's last post was certainly about *a* British Election, but there's little more to be said about *the* British Election... What if we ke...
by Pole, the
Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461764

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Well, all of that makes a lot of sense to me, but is there any precedent for a voiced fricative producing distinctive vowel coloring? Yes, see German /x/ vs /ʁ/. For that matter, is there precedent for rounding blocking a vowel-coloring effect? Yes, see English /ɛr ɪr ʊr → ɜr/ vs /ɔr → ɔr/. If you ...
by Pole, the
Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:42 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "ain't" in Merriam-Webster's and mention of "Black English"
Replies: 4
Views: 2160

Re: "ain't" in Merriam-Webster's and mention of "Black Engli

I think it's the inclusion of “Black” and ”less educated” in the same entry that caused most of the backlash. Similar thing happened recently to a certain cartoon character that had “can't read” as a part of her description.
by Pole, the
Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:06 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: ZBB member photos, part 5. (Something for the weekend, sir?)
Replies: 5496
Views: 789102

Re: ZBB member photos, part 5. (Something for the weekend, s

Wait, you never told us you're the governor of Georgia!
by Pole, the
Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:58 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Help your fluency in a nifty way
Replies: 4604
Views: 1141374

Re: Help your fluency in a nifty way

Gestern bin ich aus dem Supermarkt zurückgekommen und ich bin von dem Wind und Regen gefangen worden. Das Gehen war schwierig und nachher waren meine Kleider klatschnass. Yesterday I was going back home from the supermarket and I was caught by the wind and rain. It was difficult to walk and my clot...
by Pole, the
Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:40 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630460

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Others not likely without similar shifts affecting /k/ in other environments. How big is the pohonology? It looks roughly like that: /m n/ /p b t d (tʃ) k ɡ/ /f v (θ) s z (ʃ) x/ /l r j w/ Later on, /tʃ ʃ/ → /tʃˠ ʃˠ/ → /tsx sx/. Edit: Would it be plausible to have /θ/ → (fortition) /tθ/ → /tx/ inste...
by Pole, the
Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:15 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630460

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

How would you approach the following ones?

/k/ → /tsk/ // V[+short]_{a o u}, V[+short]_$
/k/ → /ts/ // _{a o u}
/θ/ → /tx/
/ks/ → /x/