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by Ketumak
Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
Replies: 70
Views: 18339

Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?

I have looked for these on the wider internet, but not had much luck. I turned up an old paper arguing that aspirated descended from glottalised stops. That may well be one source, but there seem to be quite a few languages around with both. I suppose a language could develop glottalised stops which...
by Ketumak
Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:59 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Teach-Learn Polarity [mostly on causatives]
Replies: 19
Views: 15217

Re: Teach-Learn Polarity

The more I read all the above the more I think there might be two things going on here: a valence thing, at the formal level and something else, perhaps at the semantic level: point of view/perspective might well capture that side of things. I'm quite a valence adjustment fan, I put a lot into my la...
by Ketumak
Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:39 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Teach-Learn Polarity [mostly on causatives]
Replies: 19
Views: 15217

Re: Teach-Learn Polarity

What kind of thing? I was thinking, pre-theoretically, that the pairs were all to do with the transmission of something to someone/something/ somewhere. Teach-learn A transmits knowledge to B Send-receive A transmits a parcel to B Come-go A "transmits themselves" to location B In each case the thin...
by Ketumak
Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:59 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Teach-Learn Polarity [mostly on causatives]
Replies: 19
Views: 15217

Re: Teach-Learn Polarity

Ye-ah, that sort of thing (unless something else turns up). I note one of their examples is a Proto-Polynesian, sister to Proto-Malay, the ancestor to the language in my example. So this is promising! I shall research their terms some more.
by Ketumak
Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:51 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Teach-Learn Polarity [mostly on causatives]
Replies: 19
Views: 15217

Teach-Learn Polarity [mostly on causatives]

I have a couple of conlangs which are zero marking for inflection, but I'm trying to make them rich in derivational affixes. I working on derivational paradigms like this from Malay-Indonesian: ajar = teach ajaran = teachings belajar = to learn mengajar = to teach diajar = being taught (intransitive...
by Ketumak
Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:59 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Not switch reference but...
Replies: 5
Views: 1842

Re: Not switch reference but...

Sounds like logophoricity to me, as found in a number of West African languages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logophoricity
by Ketumak
Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:52 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you say for X?
Replies: 6
Views: 2215

Re: What do you say for X?

I'm only familiar with the second. I've never heard of the first before, so couldn't comment, but I've always understood the second to mean:

He can talk the talk but he can't walk the walk

A more modern expression with similar metaphorical reference.
by Ketumak
Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:39 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: How many words does your conlang have?
Replies: 30
Views: 8901

Re: How many words does your conlang have?

My Õtari language has 810 words and there's a few more "pending" words as well.

The mean number of words per language amongst the languages submitted to CALSis 1130.

http://cals.conlang.org/statistics/vocabularies/
by Ketumak
Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:45 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The dream thread
Replies: 1807
Views: 321511

Re: The dream thread

@hwhatting: Crikey! I see what you mean!
by Ketumak
Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:19 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: What are you listening to? -- Non-English Edition
Replies: 1735
Views: 363537

Re: What are you listening to? -- Non-English Edition

You might be pleasantly surprised by Dolores, his stuff is quite mellifluous.

I like fado too, BTW.
by Ketumak
Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:14 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The dream thread
Replies: 1807
Views: 321511

Re: The dream thread

Nothing so profound here, but another conlang related one. A few nights ago I dreamt I lent a phoneme from one of my conlangs to another conlanger and never got it back. It was /p/. I don' t know who it was, but I wrote to them several times to no avail. The loss and sense of powerlessness made me a...
by Ketumak
Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:07 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: What are you listening to? -- Non-English Edition
Replies: 1735
Views: 363537

Re: What are you listening to? -- Non-English Edition

I've not posted for a while in either of the listening-to threads, because the answer has been the same as my last post in the English thread: The Magnetic Fields. I now have a new musical fad though, DJ Dolores. He (yes, he) is Brazilian and mixes typically Brazilian music with modern DJ-ing type s...
by Ketumak
Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:29 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang
Replies: 26
Views: 7788

Re: Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang

I've seen your approach to polar questions at work in Spanish, so that's fine. I'm intrigued by the approach to wh-questions. I gather from WALS this approach is attested, though I've never seen it in action myself. I suspect "u", interrogative/indefinite, needs an affix. How else could you say "som...
by Ketumak
Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:20 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang
Replies: 26
Views: 7788

Re: Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang

OK, I'll look out for them.
by Ketumak
Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:23 pm
Forum: Almea
Topic: Poll: Favourite Almean languages
Replies: 27
Views: 23468

Re: Poll: Favourite Almean languages

hydroeccentricity wrote:Using the super secret math that only I understand, I came up with this:
Thanks for doing this. I've been meaning to get round to counting them for a while, but not done with one thing and another cropping up!
by Ketumak
Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:16 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang
Replies: 26
Views: 7788

Re: Proto-southern: the minimalist conlang

It's looking good so far. How does Proto-Southern handle questions and negation?
by Ketumak
Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:06 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: The glebst of Gleb
Replies: 187
Views: 67641

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Seed 1956171154 offers quite a few un-English features in a small space (23 phonemes):

aeiou mn pb tt'd kk'g ɂ f s h hʷ l L w

hʷ is described as a rounded pharyngeal fricative

The maximum syllable is: CVRC. Where R is any of mn lL w s.
by Ketumak
Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:15 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Gonkoun: scratchpad
Replies: 7
Views: 2311

Re: Gonkoun: scratchpad

Hi uriell. You're not sure how to represent the aspirated consonants. I'd use digraphs with h: ph, th and so on. It's an approach I take in one of my conlangs. You're not using it for anything else and it is kind of intuitive.
by Ketumak
Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:58 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: The Ultimate Proto-Language
Replies: 39
Views: 11188

Re: The Ultimate Proto-Language

I like this project, too! Coming back to proto-everything-else, how does it form compound words? Which air flow takes precedence in the event of a clash and which vowel? Vowels could be kept as is, though one element would have to adapt its airflow. You could say the stressed element dominates or th...
by Ketumak
Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:48 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: The glebst of Gleb
Replies: 187
Views: 67641

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Gleb seed 2128440978. Has a lot of principles at work within it. There's aspirated and glottalised stops (or are they ejectives? Marked C', etc. which leaves the matter doubtful. Maybe it's up to the user). There's also loads of nasality. These principles interact to produce: Consonants m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̥...
by Ketumak
Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:38 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Creativity of the day
Replies: 1704
Views: 333859

Re: Creativity of the day

Very nice notes and coins, vampireshark. Gives me a ... yen to learn the language of Telemor. Have you put anything on the 'net about it?
by Ketumak
Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:28 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Map of Yat-Vrkhazh
Replies: 19
Views: 5199

Re: Map of Yat-Vrkhazh

In that case, yes, Middle Vrkhazhian would be better in place names. I also meant to ask, do you have any linguistic minorities? Their place names will be distinctive, of course.
by Ketumak
Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:51 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Map of Yat-Vrkhazh
Replies: 19
Views: 5199

Re: Map of Yat-Vrkhazh

Nice Semitic vibe, for sure. When it comes to the other city names, don't expect them all to make sense in the modern language. Some might be unchanged since the proto-language or come from the language spoken by the previous occupants of your country.
by Ketumak
Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: araceli's nominal system
Replies: 11
Views: 3589

Re: araceli's nominal system

Ah, right! Things are clearer now and in a good way. I had been worried there'd be too much redundancy in this system, but it looks like there's not. The animacy hierarchy handles case and the classes handle number, so they have a division of labour. Does the class system govern anything else, say c...
by Ketumak
Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:27 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Happy Things Thread
Replies: 969
Views: 376638

Re: Happy Things Thread

There's a couple of articles on segmented sleep on Wikipedia. They're here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmented_sleep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep They mention scientific studies that show humans respond well to segmented sleep and refer to the work of a historian, A. Roger Ekr...