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A suggestion from someone who's not actively involved: get the most experienced member of the team to do the proto-language. Someone with some experience will come up with a reasonable sketch that is plausible and covers the bases (and hopefully will have enough delicious possibilities for derivati...

Speed-reading through, a few questions I may have missed the answers to: (1) is anyone assigned to do T-2's proto-lang or was T-2 collaborative; (2) do we have a board, and, if not, has anyone undertaken the search; (3) Are we dealing with humans (c.f. Akana irc), humanoids (c.f. the Zebia project),...

I wasn't too helpful in last years, but if you'll take me on I'll redeem myself now that I have more time.

Whatever team; throw me to the wind migration-wise -- maybe an outlying coastal or mountainous area.

Phonotactics Revised . Phonotactics.JPG EDIT: need to add at least /ks/, /kt/, and ? /ktʰ/ clusters. Initial Draft of Allophony . (1)(a) Backing of breathiness/aspiration: /CʰC(C)V/ [CC(C)ʰV, CC(C)ʱV] /CʱC(C)V/ [CC(C)ʰV, CC(C)ʱV] (1)(b) Resolution of breathiness/aspiration: /C*ɦV/ _(+breathy)ɦV [Cʱ...

Great first showing; welcome to the board. If agent and the patient are both omitted, the current topic of speech is understood to be the patient while the agent is not specified:(15) Hapikar ī.VOL-see-FIN PROG[She] is being looked at.(16) Haphraksār tho.VOL-die-CAUS-FIN PERF[It] was killed. Cool. 2...

. . . The primary culprits are those with a medial or final weak consonant: w y m n ʔ - particularly galling is the fact that ʔ doesn't even have a surface instantiation in Qôni, having been lost in the transition from Achaunese. Query, Why not just analyze a /ʔ/, with the following allophones: Und...

A bit on (P)NP Syntax and Nominal Morphology : Basic P(NP) frames : (Determiner*) (AP) pronoun** (POSS PP) (COM PP) (LOC/Time PP) Determiner* (AP) nominal*** (POSS PP) (COM PP) (LOC/Time PP) *Place-holder term for either a demonstrative, quantifier, or cardinal numeral. Demonstratives are isomorphi...

Great! Thanks y'all.

Does anyone know of a good source on uvular stop diachronics?

My general impression is that uvular approximants and fricatives are commonly formed by backed coronals and velars. Does this also hold true for stops? Is secondary articulation a factor? Any insight greatly appreciated.

Numerals . Again, a glimmer of PIE creative influence on the root shapes. Like [+3] PRO-forms above, numerals also have mandatory spatial deixis marking – the deictic extenders are largely isomorphic with the enclitic [+3] PRO-forms. Several forms show doubled or stacked deixis marking. I am not su...

After reading through Nort's awesome page, I was inspired to reboot this. I haven't done much in about a half-year, so some fresh starting was in order. --- Revamped Phoneme Inventory . A bit PIE-ish in manner (shout-out to w'elf, I think, for: https://www.academia.edu/1538887/Typology_and_reconstru...

Oh wonderful, another intrusion of the ZBB bird-meme at my spelling error -- how droll.

Ugh -- pulling my hair out to remember the source, something in the Cambridge Series -- I have read that pigeon and creole languages have a tendency to switch to SOV even where the sub- and superstrate language are otherwise. Putting the comments above together and going out on a limb, perhaps the i...

And my thoughts on your thoughts. . . . Note that the /i/ in the Anatolian nominative must be original, since there's no way to generate it otherwise. . . . The most likely explanation of these forms is that the 2s nom. i is original, and the rest of the paradigm possessed u/w. This then spread int...

Some Thoughts on the Structure of PIE Personal Pronouns and Related Forms . While doing some PIE reconstruction stuff, I started working on the following. None of it is finished, polished, or particularly well thought through -- not sure if I will finish it. Anyway, TL;DR my musings -- and errors -...

I asked a similar question on the board about a year ago and got some pretty good resources. One in particular was a survey of various "trigger" systems . . . I cannot find it at the moment, but I will edit and add it if I do. Otherwise, this might help:

http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~eivs/papers.html

Good meta-resource of PIE language family internal pronoun reconstructions.

https://digilib.phil.muni.cz/bitstream/ ... sequence=1

I see a few mistakes, but otherwise, great.

I notice a lot of people in American TV and movies merge the vowel + /l/ sounds in "cult" and "colt", or at least pronounce them a lot more similarly than I do Mid-Atlantic American (or mine at least) keeps those apart: <colt> [kʰoɫt]; <cult> [kʰəɫt ~ kʰʌɫt]. The dark v. light L still confuses me -...

"Three" appears in select Dardic Languages and Gandhari (In loosely orientalist transcription <y> = IPA /j/ and where the vowels are VERY tentative): Gandhari: /m Nom. traje, Inst&gen tri-/ --- Tirahi: /tre/ --- W. Paʃaí: /trɛ, tra/ E. Paʃaí: /ɬé, ?ɬ̢é/ --- ʃumaʃti: /ɬyē, ɬīē, ?ɬ̢yē, ?ɬ̢īē/ Grangali...

I guess depending on how you analyze reduced vowels, a more liberal view might be: <Strengthened> [sʈɻɛŋkθnd] ~ [sʈɻɛŋgðnd] and other agglutinated forms. Though, I guess you could argue: [sʈɻɛŋkθn̥d] ~ [sʈɻɛŋgðn̥d]. No idea where the syllable breaks should be if you analyze a reduced vowel or nasal ...

@ 2+3: Having that in mind, are you saying that the languages you name (1) didn't merge /a/ and /o/ in all positions, or that (2) the phonems merged, but that the outcome could sometimes be [o] depending on position? (1) would be a more significant outcome than (2), because (1) would mean that some...

How convincing ;) The same problem occurs when one assumes that those branches that show rounded reflexes of PIE *o have innovated that feature. The *a/*o merger of the Germanic/Balto-Slavic area perhaps was a change separate from the *e/*a/*o merger in Indo-Iranian. The more research I do, the les...

Anyone have or have access to Tocharian historical phonology and morphology by Douglas Q. Adams (1998): http://www.worldcat.org/title/tocharian ... ht=edition

In particular, I am trying to read the chapter on pronouns.

I am doing an areal cross-family study of Nuristani, Indo-Aryan (modern: Dardic, Romani-domari, others; past: Gandhari, etc.), eastern Iranian languages (with various odd-balls), and the oddly fitting Khotanese and tumshuqese. I plan to put it into L&L sometime. So far, I am comparing personal prono...

Anyone know of a grammatical sketch of Mycenaean? I am particularly interested in the case structure and pronouns and demonstratives.