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- Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:40 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631402
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Cool stuff! Thanks What's the final phoneme inventory? consonants ʰp p b ʰt t d c ɟ ʰk k g f s ʃ χ m n ɲ ŋ ʋ l ʎ ʀ w j vowels front fr.round back high i ɪ y ʏ u ʊ mid e ɛ ø o ɔ ə low a ɑ all vowels except /ə/ have both a long and a short variant, which contrast phonemically (due to loss of final vo...
- Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:28 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631402
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Hmm, somehow doubled my post...
- Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:32 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631402
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Well, don't just stand there with a bunch of sound changes, show us some future-Dutch words! straat "street" /stʀat/ becomes /ʰtʀa:/ pompen "to pump" /'pɔmpə(n)/ becomes /fɔb/ binden "to bind" /'bɪndə(n)/ becomes /bɪnt/ ritselen "(ehh)" /'ʀɪtsələ(n)/ becomes /ʀɪ:zɔw/ raspen "to grate" /'ʀɑspə(n)/ b...
- Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:48 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631402
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I saw a number of threads here of people who were creating future descendants of English, and that got me thinking. So now I am working on a future descendant of Dutch, as that's probably easier for me. I've come up with a number of sound changes of which I'm not sure if they are plausible. The curr...
- Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:07 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Adding "extra" phonological material to avoid homophony
- Replies: 22
- Views: 4166
Re: Adding "extra" phonological material to avoid homophony
love how English uses "X-X" reduplication to mean "real X". Wouldn't that be because compounds in Germanic languages are formed on the model of specifier-headword? So that if you use reduplication, the headword is specified to mean it(-s real )self? It works that way in Dutch too btw. I'm not sure ...
- Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:32 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Adding "extra" phonological material to avoid homophony
- Replies: 22
- Views: 4166
Re: Adding "extra" phonological material to avoid homophony
Wouldn't that be because compounds in Germanic languages are formed on the model of specifier-headword? So that if you use reduplication, the headword is specified to mean it(-s real )self? It works that way in Dutch too btw.TaylorS wrote: love how English uses "X-X" reduplication to mean "real X".
- Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:17 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Colours as surnames
- Replies: 56
- Views: 9140
Re: Colours as surnames
In The Netherlands: Groen "Green": 11 877 Groene "Green (One)": 77 De Groene "The Green (One)": 179 Total number of surnames containing groen: 197 Rood "Red": 1 938 Rode "Red (One)": 119 Roode "Red (One)": 555 De Rode "The Red (One)": 51 De Roode: 1 565 Bruin "Brown": 3 500 Bruijn/Bruyn: 1 809 De Br...
- Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:37 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: formal-informal distinction with family question/survey
- Replies: 31
- Views: 6353
Re: formal-informal distinction with family question/survey
25 years ago, I remember my Dutch cousins addressing their parents with U , not jij . Yes, that was the norm before the 60s/70s, but still in use a while ago. Nowadays I would expect that only in the bible belt. The informal 2s pronouns are used for family, except perhaps (great) grand parents (alt...
- Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:12 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666002
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
I'm wondering about the pronunciation of 'year'. I say /jIr/, but I have noticed quite a lot of /j@r/ (or something like that, anyway). Is this a real phenomenon and where does it occur? I've only heard the latter in really posh RP. In the really posh RP I heard it'd be [jəː]. Normally they'd say [...
- Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:34 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666002
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
I'm wondering about the pronunciation of 'year'. I say /jIr/, but I have noticed quite a lot of /j@r/ (or something like that, anyway). Is this a real phenomenon and where does it occur? I've only heard the latter in really posh RP. In the really posh RP I heard it'd be [jəː]. Normally they'd say [...
- Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:20 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: natural "interlanguages"
- Replies: 19
- Views: 3930
Re: natural "interlanguages"
Aw. I wish this kind of situation was a possibility for me, but speaking to Norwegian or Danish people is naturally no problem, as I'm Swedish. It just works out. Our languages are too similar to cause much trouble. Icelandic I've been studying for too long, and I'm slowly getting there with Faroes...
- Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:05 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666002
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
I learned how to pronounce it from IPA transcription, so my pronunciation is something like... [kju:nIform], I guess. Haha, that is how I learn most of my English pronunciations. Myself, I pronounce it [kj̥uːnɪfɔːm], but that's just taken from a pronunciation dictionary. So I guess my source is pre...
- Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:46 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666002
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
I'd try to say [ˈkl̥əʊ̯.sə]. I also like to convince myself I in fact get very close to that.
I'd like to know how you pronounce cuneiform. If I'm correct British English has something like /ˈkjuːnɪfɔːm/ and Am E /ˈkjuːniːəfɔrm/... Is that recognisable?
I'd like to know how you pronounce cuneiform. If I'm correct British English has something like /ˈkjuːnɪfɔːm/ and Am E /ˈkjuːniːəfɔrm/... Is that recognisable?
- Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:04 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: How do you pronounce "Wikipedia"?
- Replies: 136
- Views: 18492
Re: How do you pronounce "Wikipedia"?
Normally I'd say, in Dutch, something in between [ʋikiˈpedija] and [ʋikiˈpeɪdija], but trying to speak English it would become something like [wɪkʰɪpʰiːdijə] I think, although I'm not sure if I actually aspirate the [k]. Hmm, guess I don't. Btw, rather off topic, but is there a symbol to denote a so...
- Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:46 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Old Frankish/Franconian
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1400
Re: Old Frankish/Franconian
A book to start with might be Old English and its Closest Relatives by Orrin Robinson. It doesn't go into much detail, but I don't know how much detail it's possible togo into. Thanks, my library turned out to have a copy of the book, which I am reading now. The problem with Old Frankish is that it...
- Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:28 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Old Frankish/Franconian
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1400
Old Frankish/Franconian
Does anyone have information about the Germanic languages spoken in Belgium and Northern France around 500/1000 CE or know where to get it? I have been searching with terms such as Old Frankish, Old Franconian, Frankish language, but that doesn't exactly yield mountains of interesting information. I...