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Ethnicity in the UK tends to include skin colour. If you ever fill in a form asking about your ethnicity (many companies have to do this to show they're not being racist, for instance), you will get responses like White British, White European, White Other, followed by Black African, Black Caribbea...

I propose you don't, because you can't come up with a language family - and I mean only the phonetics here, mind you - through a sound change game. Phoneme frequency plays a huge role in how sound changes happen - and that kind of requires a proper vocabulary and a grammar (because grammatical morp...

Basilius wrote:

Grunnen wrote:Just pretend you have no idea what this is.

I don't pretend, I just have no idea.

It's the collection of abstractions of sounds I use in daily speech. At least when I'm not abroad.

Basilius wrote:

Grunnen wrote:<n g>
<kb q k>

Yes, that was witty

Thanks, I was surprised it would fit that well. I guess the <c z> is the Chinese route, and thus the obvious solution, isn't it?

Africanish Consonants: ŋ͡m m n ŋ <gm m n g> k͡pʰ k͡p pʰ p tʰ t t͡sʰ t͡s kʰ k <kp kb p b t d c z q k> xʷ s x l w <hw s h l w> Vowels: a e i o u <a e i o u> Phonotactics: (nasal)(C)V Example k͡paxa toneŋa pasula t͡sʰowa. ntisi ŋke kʰawalo mena xa xʷolamane. tʰinu sama se t͡sʰowa sintisiwa. KBaha toneg...

I won't speak for anyone else, but to me ""ethnicity"" is a social category that I do not find useful or important. I do not self identify as any particular ethnicity and that's why I answered the way I did. Ah, that's funny, seeing that to many people here in Europe it's one of the most important ...

How is it that people in America consider their skin colour an ethnicity? I said "Polish"... Okay guys, you don't all have to tell me if you said something else, that doesn't answer the question. If it helps, I did notice not all Americans responded in said fashion. So, there you go. Still, can any...

How is it that people in America consider their skin colour an ethnicity? Who do you mean? I mentioned nothing about skin color. I wasn't specifically talking about you. But I noticed that people from most places say something like their ethnicitiy is Catalan/French/German/Russian/Flemish or whatev...

/p b t d k/ < p b t d k > /f v s z χ h/ < f v s z g h > /m n ŋ/ < m n ng > /ʋ l j ʁ/ < v l j r > /i y u/ < ie yö u > /ɪ ʏ/ < i y > /e ø o/ < ei ö ou > /ɛ ɔ/ < e o > /a ɑ/ < ä a > /æi œy ɑu/ < äi öy au > /iʋ uʋ eʋ uj oj ɔj aj ɑj/ < iv uv ev uj ouj oj äj aj > So /v/ and /ʋ/ aren't going to be disting...

How is it that people in America consider their skin colour an ethnicity?

I wonder. I think it might be fun to branch these off – maybe take different branches and develop the languages a bit further... That's the type of thing I was thinking about indeed. But having two different branches in one thread will probably be a bit unwieldy. Yeah, at some point I'll stop the p...

Just pretend you have no idea what this is. /p b t d k/ /f v s z χ h/ /m n ŋ/ /ʋ l j ʁ/ /i y u/ /ɪ ʏ/ /e ø o/ (realised as slightly closing diphthongs) /ɛ ɔ/ /a ɑ/ /æi œy ɑu/ /iʋ uʋ eʋ uj oj ɔj aj ɑj/ (could well be treated as vowel plus glide sequences, but other vowel plus glide combinations don't...

vecfaranti wrote:I wonder. I think it might be fun to branch these off – maybe take different branches and develop the languages a bit further...

That's the type of thing I was thinking about indeed. But having two different branches in one thread will probably be a bit unwieldy.

Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:I'm from Brabant. Some of the differences are because of the slightly different accent, while others are indeed because of a difference in analysis.

Looks like it. I'm originally from Groningen myself, but people tend to be rather surprised when I tell them.

Just wanted to say I think the script is pretty impressive. Somehow you got the look of it to work, I don't know, it's much more convincing than anything I would have come up with, I'm sure.

Btw, does this go on (in principle) indefinitely?

Lets see what I get if I do the test with my Dutch: 89.5% Funny, we get almost the same percentage, but we do not always have the same red lines. May I ask what region your accent comes from? Although perhaps the differences are more to do with a difference in analysis. That's still possible I supp...

Not sure how you get to the percentage, given the bonus questions at the end, but without those the score is 77%, and as I got all bonus points, I'm probably going to end up pretty close to 100%. But what would you expect from a language bordering French, German and English? I'm pretty sure that in...

I thought it would be interesting to try this with my own language, using my own dialect (fairly typical standard northern Dutch) 1. Absence of any phonemic POA for stops further back than velar [half mark for only one stop-POA behind velar, or for prominent allophonic stops behind velar 2. Phonemic...

vecfaranti wrote:Woops, the β in the second word should be v. Can you fix yours?

Is this the one you meant? Oh wait, you changed it yourself as well.

back and central vowels following a labial consonant become front. some kind of dissimilation I suppose pʕɜʃˈuːs feˈʃi pifiˈves tɨˈzɒː ʃaːmˈbiː ʃi aːˈfeː jeː ow jɨˈʔaː xe xɜˈvi kɨsʕuːx ˈxuŋbe naː ˈniːmiː nuː ˈmeʒɨ mɛve mɛˈfaː njeːˈmiʕ nɨˈʒʕoː nɜˈʔiː nuː nus xɒːˈkɒː xɒː ʕaːˈniː ˈaʔaː tʃiːˈʕo ʃuː ʃaːs...

voiceless plosives become aspirated in the onset of a stressed syllable voiced plosives become voiceless in the onset of a stressed syllable stress shifts to the last heavy syllable (long vowel/closed) in a word, or the last syllable in absence of a closed syllable stressed schwa merges with /i/ not...

Dutch: verbeelding

beeld: image, statue

ver- : verbal prefix indicating a change in state

verbeelden: verb meaning "to imagine, depict, portray"

-ing: nominalising suffix (exactly like in English)

verbeelding: imagination, portrayal

Same in Chinese, which may possibly have borrowed calqued it? I'm just making stuff up now so ignore that part. But it really does mean "name word" (名词 for those interested.) Funny, that's exactly like in Dutch: naamwoord. Although there a naamwoord is basically anything that's not verbal: zelfstan...

Sleinad Flar wrote:Drydic is alluding to biblical use of archaic constructions.

Typically, "u is" isn't even used there. However it is often used in Dutch forums, often jokingly.

Ah like that. I don't frequent Dutch forums so I wasn't aware of that usage.