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What are the effects of the English language on Maori? And the effects of Maori on the English spoken in NZ? Maori to english, bad grammar. English to maori, funny transliterated words. A maori and some Europeans say, ride on a car, I presume this is influenced by the maori linguistic construction ...

Fair enough

A minute of silence for the world of Istion?

My new meme I've been thinking about;

/p b v m f t d D n T k g ? N x/
<p b/v m f t d/dd n th c g/h ng x>
/a e i o u u: @ i:/
<a e i o u w y>

Where as NZ has only had lost Melanesians, Maori (Primarily from the Cook Islands), Europeans and then every other group of people. TH also tends to present suppositions - and ideas for which there is no evidence - as facts. No evidence for lost Melanesians nor is there any conclusive evidence for ...

Miekko wrote:

Whimemsz wrote:(because Turtlehead doesn't seem to be making a clear distinction between the English language and languages spoken on the British Isles at various times).

Which contributes to the problem.

Could someone elaborate then?

That's actually... kind of true? Just worded in a really terrible, simplistic and confusing way (because Turtlehead doesn't seem to be making a clear distinction between the English language and languages spoken on the British Isles at various times). :wink: Where as NZ has only had lost Melanesian...

Reports? Or has another conworld died?

Thanks for the welcomes! Turtlehead that was a silly question about EP. Like asking whether English descends from Dutch or German. English is a dialect of Dutch :roll: I'd say it's more likely to be a dialect of Frisian, or vice versa. This, though, isn't commonly considered truth. They're both dau...

Ka korero koe i te reo Maori? Could you translate, gloss and transcribe the pronunciation of that? Bonus: if you really can, also show the same sentence in [an]other polynesian language[s], and if not all words are the same, still show possible cognates. BAMP ka ko:rero koe i te reo Ma:ori? TAM spe...

Thanks for the welcomes! Turtlehead that was a silly question about EP. Like asking whether English descends from Dutch or German. English is a dialect of Dutch :roll: France and Germany rarely agree with one another as much as they do about their reaction to your claim. Well at one point in the pa...

Reo wrote:Thanks for the welcomes! Turtlehead that was a silly question about EP. Like asking whether English descends from Dutch or German.

English is a dialect of Dutch

So ancient Samoans and Tongans both migrated to EP?

Miekko wrote:

Turtlehead wrote: So did EP descend from Tongan or Samoan?

Do you even know how linguistic taxonomy works, what it tries to classify and what it means?

I was meaning the area, probably could have worded it a bit better.

I might make a more complete table of pronouns, just to experiment with the variety. Maybe even experiment with more distance, like in Spanish aquel/la . Maori has a good system Tenei (this by me(the speaker)) Tena (that by you) Tera (that over there neither by me or you) anei - here ana - there ar...

Turtlehead wrote:Reo welcome to the ZBB. No hea koe?

Anei, no hea koe?

Have my doubts about the accuracy of this - for instance Proto Polynesian glottal stop is zero in Māori but Turtlehead's list appears to say it became h. Also while PPN had *s and *h but the latter got lost before Eastern Polynesian so I think Eastern Polynesian h is from *s. Could be wrong. Samoan...

Back to tree gods work. No more flame skirmish

Have my doubts about the accuracy of this - for instance Proto Polynesian glottal stop is zero in Māori but Turtlehead's list appears to say it became h. Also while PPN had *s and *h but the latter got lost before Eastern Polynesian so I think Eastern Polynesian h is from *s. Could be wrong. Samoan...

Most interesting

Do you have any sample texts?

I remember hearing a story on NPR within the past year or two. It was about a Tamil (IIRC) poet or author who was talking about the difficulty of reforming or producing modern literature in Tamil, because of the weight of the language's traditional literature. He was trying to standardize the langu...

Reo welcome to the ZBB. No hea koe?

Turtlehead, can you give me the sound changes from Proto Austronesian to Maori? Proto-Austronesian Consonants p /p/ - p t /t/ - t k /k/ - k q /q/[3] or /ʔ/ - h b /b/ - p d /d/ - t D /ɖ/ - gone g /ɡ/; j /ɡʲ/ - k m /m/ - m n /n/ - n ɲ /ɲ/ - n or gone ŋ /ŋ/ - ng S /s/ - wh or h s /ç/ - wh or h h /h/ -...

... TAM means tense/aspect/mood, right? Yeah, that's not really acceptable in a gloss where we might actually want to know what tense, what aspect, and what mood is being marked. Don't really care if it's in the book or not. What do you think that tells me about the book? It's a heretical linguisti...