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So, in English we have the paradigm ANIMAL-VEGETABLE-MINERAL, where the first two items are living, but the distinction being the first draw "breath" (not necessarily accurate 100%, but that's the etymology of "animal", so anyway). The thing is, "vegetable" sub-divides into various categories, too: ...

Hi Linguoboy, I was referring to examples such as a drink/eat/hit/kick etc.

Hi Hakaku,

Is -win a bound morpheme?

DO ANY LANGUAGES do something like "eat" (vb) and "eat thing" (n)? Yes, Japanese, as mentioned above: 食べ物 or 食事 <tabemono> or <shokuji> both "eating thing" 食べる <taberu> "eat" There's also 食う <kuu> "eat (roughly)" and ご飯 <gohan> "honorable rice; meal" but not terribly relevant Whoops. :oops: "Apple-...

Hi guys, So, this is really interesting stuff here. Please keep posting your insights on your languages. So far as I can tell, the overwhelming majority of languages seem to use the same root for both verb and noun, if not the actual same word. And, where languages use a different root for any given...

Chibi wrote:Mandarin is the same as Japanese. "rain" (the noun) is 雨 (yu3), while "to rain"ｉｓ　下雨 (fall rain).

German has two different words from the same root. "rain" is Regen, "to rain" is regnen, probably from earlier regenen.

Hi Chibi,

Is "fall rain" considered a compound noun, a compound verb, or a VP?

Japanese has 雨 <ame> for the noun and 雨が降る <ame ga furu> "rain falls" for the "verb." Hmm, interesting. Cheers, man. How does Japanese handle: (a) other weather stuff, e.g., wind, noun versus verb? (I assume hail, snow, etc, are all formed akin to rain) (b) other general vocab that in English are t...

Alright guys, So basically I was wondering how different languages handle pairs such as "rain" (vb) vs. rain (n) and how common those ways are. Now, obviously English has no problem using the same word as either a noun or a verb. Likewise, I know Spanish does this (albeit with the relevant verby or ...

Just lent my copy of the book to a fellow linguistics student since he expressed interest in conlanging a few days ago. I suspect he'll join our ranks shortly. :P God, it's like we're crack pushers or something. Spread the gospel! HALLELUJAH! :D I haven't found anyone to convert yet... but maybe so...

Risla wrote:Just lent my copy of the book to a fellow linguistics student since he expressed interest in conlanging a few days ago. I suspect he'll join our ranks shortly.

God, it's like we're crack pushers or something.

So, I've managed to BUY a copy of the New Testament AND PSALMS in Tok Pisin. Until I get round to scanning them up (I have no scanner and my web cafe charges 50p a sheet, so probably never then) I will continue to post requests if you have any. *** About the "4-pela" thing, yeah, I had never seen th...

Anguipes wrote:Anything from the Song of Songs, please.

That would be truly aaaaaaaaaaaaaawesome. But tragically that is an OT book, and I only have the NT right now. Sorry.

Bristel wrote:

sano wrote:Bryan,

Just post the whole fuckin' thing in a PDF already and get it over with.

What's with the hostility, sano?

Penis envy?

Repressed pederastic impulses?

Stockholm syndrome?

Munchausen by proxy?

only the LORD knows.

Bryan, Just post the whole fuckin' thing in a PDF already and get it over with. I would love to do that, but sadly I don't have it on my harddrive; I have a hard copy instead. So putting a pdf online would require either scanning or typing up the whole thing, which I currently don't have time for. ...

Hi Soap, quick post re: 3. Tok Pisin: ol man i trabel long ol maritmeri ("adulterers") Tok soap ( ;) ) : Men who travel ??? while married (is "married" marit or meri though?) ol man = PLURAL man i = predicate trabel = trouble, sin, wrongdoing, and so on long = lots of stuff (LOL!) marit = married me...

2 Timothy 3:16 Spirit bilong God yet i bin kamapim olgeta tok i stap long buk bilong God. Na dispela tok em i gutpela samting tru bilong skulim yumi long tok tru na bilong stretim ol manmeri tingting bilong ol i no stret na bilong stretim wokabaut bilong yumi na bilong skulim yumi long ol pasin i s...

1 Corinthians 6:9 Ol man i save mekim pasin nogut, ol bai i no inap i go insait long kingdom bilong God. Ating yupela i no save long dispela, a? Nogut yupela i giamanim bel bilong yupela yet. Ol man i save mekim pasin pamuk, na ol man i save lotu long ol giaman god, na ol man i trabel long ol marit...

Revelations 21:1-4 please. My favourite Bible verses. (Nupela skai na nupela graun i kamap) 1 Nau mi lukim nupela skai na nupela graun i stap. Namba wan skai na namba wan graun i go pinis olgeta. Na solwara i no i stap moa. 2 Na mi lukim dispela taun bilong God, em nupela Jerusalem. Mi lukim em i s...

No, there's lots of violence in the OT, probably even more than in the NT, the whole Jesus-crossing thing and Revelations aside. Just for curiosity, I'd like to have John 1, 1. You know, "In the beginning was the Word ..." (Tok i gat laip em i kamap man) 1 Bipo bipo tru, taim olgeta samting i no ka...

KEEP THOSE REQUESTS COMING IN!!! I'm still waiting for Guitarplayer and Viktor77's requests (John 1:1 and Revelations 21: 1-4) to be carried out... You did read the bit about me having, like, a job and a life and stuff, no...? I can't keep this bible forever, but if I get the requests now, I can be...

KEEP THOSE REQUESTS COMING IN!!! I'm still waiting for Guitarplayer and Viktor77's requests (John 1:1 and Revelations 21: 1-4) to be carried out... You did read the bit about me having, like, a job and a life and stuff, no...? I can't keep this bible forever, but if I get the requests now, I can be...

Hi Zoris, I don't really know what you're getting at (unless you're referring to the "long" "pinis" stuff; but I assure you, that is authentic tok pisin: long is a preposition and pinis is a tense/aspect marker) Probably. /pinis/ is the first thing most students of Tok Pisin notice, isnt it? Person...

Yeah just go ahead and only respond to the LAST request you got. Hi man, I don't know if you're aware of this, but some of us actually work and have, like, chores and stuff to do. All posts will get replies, including all future requests. "Patience is a virtue" as my Mum says. :) It's not a questio...

Hi Zoris, I don't really know what you're getting at (unless you're referring to the "long" "pinis" stuff; but I assure you, that is authentic tok pisin: long is a preposition and pinis is a tense/aspect marker)

The Apocalypse of John (or "Revelations" to you sillies), chapter 6, verse 8 Pretty please. Na mi lukluk gen, na mi lukim wanpela yelopela hos. Na man i sindaun long en, nem bilong en Dai. Na Ples bilong ol man i dai pinis, em i bihainim Dai i kam. Ol i givim strong long tupela long tilim olgeta ma...