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by Nortaneous
Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
Replies: 6633
Views: 764287

Re: Help your conlang fluency

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by Nortaneous
Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:47 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 511097

Re: Sound Change Game

Madai tüntö /ˈtyn.tø/ :> Bor Hlu twidwae [tɥiⁿdɥɛ]
Madai kivütö /ki.ˈβy.tø/ :> Bor Hlu kiḅwitwae [kiɓɥitɥɛ]
Madai tisö /ˈti.sø/ :> Bor Hlu tiswae [tisɥɛ]
Madai tistö /ˈtis.tø/ :> Bor Hlu tihltwae [tiɬtɥɛ]
by Nortaneous
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461836

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I'm not sure I understand. The whole point is that ablaut only acted on the original low vowels. In principle, every instance of /aː/ is susceptible to being shortened to /a/ because ablaut was just that widespread. What? The six-vowel explanation for Brugmann's Law is that ablaut-alternant *o was ...
by Nortaneous
Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:04 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Contradictory Feelings Thread
Replies: 933
Views: 211787

Re: The Contradictory Feelings Thread

I would hazard an American comparison for the Comorian thing: it's a bit like a village in the Midwest suddenly Concerned about Mexicans when Trump starts his campaign. I don't think that comparison does what you want it to do. Let's say you live in Ruritania, and Ruritania has started allowing mas...
by Nortaneous
Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:40 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 511097

Re: Sound Change Game

Madai tön /tøn/ :> Kannow t'èneja / tènot' [tʷʼeˈneʝa]/[ˈtʷʼenətʼ] Madai ïv /ɯʊ̯/ :> Kannow ygun / ygut' [ˈʔɨu̯ɣʷun]/[ˈʔɨu̯ɣʷutʼ] Madai tīla /ˈtiː.la/ :> Kannow t'yylasʼ / t'yylás [ˈtʼɨːɮatsʼ]/[ˈtʼɨːɮao̯sʷ] Madai tila /ˈti.la/ :> Kannow t'ylan / t'ylat' [ˈtʼɨɮan]/[ˈtʼɨɮatʼ] (definite/indefinite)
by Nortaneous
Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:44 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461836

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

It seems bizarre that the only time /a:/ would show up is in the ablaut system. Nah, not really, given that it's largely only detectable because of ablaut. It's like saying "it seems bizarre that we can only internally distinguish Germanic *e and *i in Gothic on the basis of their ablaut alternants...
by Nortaneous
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461836

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Unfortunately, while the /a: a i u/ vowel system sometimes attributed to pre-PIE (with *a: *a > *o *e for PIE proper) looks a lot like a less vertical form of the NWC /a: a ə/, the NWC long vowel seems to be a recent development. I've actually gone further and speculated about a possible full trian...
by Nortaneous
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 511097

Re: Sound Change Game

Proto-rəgyam tusinae [tʊsɪnǣ] :> Gyitha tosimne [toĩɲæ] Proto-rəgyam ikiuwasae [ɪkɨwɐsǣ] :> Gyitha ikuase [iɤæ] Proto-rəgyam tiyasou [tɪjɐsō] :> Gyitha tiuso [ceɾo] Proto-rəgyam tiwasiukou [tɪwɐsɨkō] :> Gyitha tuasoko [tɤɾoo] Classical Latin TUSINA /ˈtʊ.sɪ.nä/ :> Gyitha tosimna [toĩna] Classical Lat...
by Nortaneous
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461836

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

So, I consider it likely that *h 3 = *h 2 w , whatever *h 2 may have been I've seen it proposed somewhere that there was a PIE phoneme *h 2 w -- that would have to be rejected. I have already laid out yesterday what may have been the reason that there was no palatalized uvular stop - uvular stops b...
by Nortaneous
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630535

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Didn't Basque have something like *VnV > *Vh̃V > VV̯n?
by Nortaneous
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:16 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630535

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Sotho has *MP *MB > p_h p_>.
by Nortaneous
Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:07 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Creativity of the day
Replies: 1704
Views: 334172

Re: Creativity of the day

Well Reddit had no interest in this map I made but perhaps you all will find something interesting. I compiled all of the data myself from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. It took 2 weeks to hand color every county. https://www.flickr.com/photos/34700001@N06/39306140660/in/dateposted-public/ someone...
by Nortaneous
Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 511097

Re: Sound Change Game

Proto-rəgyam tutiseei ne [tʊtɪsēː nɛ̄] :> Gejaehl Hlu tutsingnae [tut̚s̺iŋnæ]
Proto-rəgyam ikiurisee [ʔɪkɨɾɪsɛ̄ː] :> Gejaehl Hlu ikueysae [ikɯjs̺æ]
Proto-rəgyam kisoou [kɪsōː] :> Gejaehl Hlu kiso [kis̺o]
Proto-rəgyam tarasakoou [tɐɾɐsɐkōː] :> Gejaehl Hlu toeyoesko [tɤjɤs̺ko]
by Nortaneous
Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461836

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

So the main problems with the simple version of the velar fricative model (*h1=front velar, *h2=back velar, *h3=labiovelar) are, to summarize: 1. *h2 is much more common than an unlabialized back velar fricative would be expected to be. 2. Why do velar fricatives colour *e, but not velar stops ? 3....
by Nortaneous
Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: What are you reading, watching and listening to?
Replies: 469
Views: 139728

Re: What are you reading, watching and listening to?

If the alt right is your thing: Having read Prometheus and Atlas, Jason Reza Jorjani comes across as a more sophisticated thinker than Jordan Peterson. He's wrong about everything, of course. These Nazi types never seem to realize that you can't have a lasting government run by geniuses. Not only w...
by Nortaneous
Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:40 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 156713

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Daemon would mostly be known from Unix nowadays -- how do sysadmins pronounce it? I don't think I've ever heard it not homophonous with demon . Interesting. I would say that Americans are significantly more likely to have familiarity with Spanish than French, actually--who doesn't know greetings/ho...
by Nortaneous
Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:37 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461836

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Regular correspondences are PIE *o *ō > PToch *æ *ā. Might be an umlaut process in pre-PToch that demonstrates an earlier rounded value for *æ, dunno. Wikipedia lists ā$ǽ > å$å. Kuemmel says : Some nouns (old neuter u-stems) show a superficially similar vowel alternation: cf. TB singular or ‘wood’, ...
by Nortaneous
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461836

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

English 'laryngeal vocalization' can be explained as vowel epenthesis, so there's that. Are there any schwas at any point in PIE that could've merged with *e early on in pre-Greek?
by Nortaneous
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:24 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexicon Building
Replies: 4308
Views: 809125

Re: Lexicon Building

Hlu: duychuewe khoelueyi *deku 'plan, rule' + *-ya (abstract collectivizer) > *dekuya > duy 'order' > duychue 'disorder' *guta~guta 'pick up' (maj.) > khoelue 'gain' Or, alternatively, Amqoli: shpredryekrega , a straightforward instrumental compound of shpredri 'shock' and krega 'profit'. Next: heur...
by Nortaneous
Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:36 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630535

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

-əl either merges into -əw (back when I didn't have a Gameboy but heard people talking about Pokemon I picked up that there was one called /bijdrijəw/ ) or becomes -uw. The rest seem stable for now, unless you're assuming nonrhoticity, which I wouldn't for future AmEng because sociolinguistics. So i...
by Nortaneous
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:01 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 867516

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Zarali liaigdamisia b̌guxesia ďga pheda bgulsi hamais gioḍursi khri meli. Bgulsi keda budrasie buġiugru b̌guxe tiuli, liosi ghą mera tkemais lipie tiugli thiąskulu mera dzexa zgu lie tiuphe. Gioḍure zga kharsi bo giu lkiare ghaskulu. Zarali lada byšxal az ḍures liaḍu nų mąpha mazo mera ďga keti ḍub...
by Nortaneous
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:48 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 867516

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Amqoli /pʰ tʰ tsʰ tʃʰ kʰ qʰ/ /p t ts tʃ k q/ /b d dz dʒ g/ /s ʃ x h/ /z ʒ/ /m l r/ /ʎ rʲ/ /a e o i u/ Voiced plosives /b d g/ lenite to fricatives in most environments. Prenasalized voiced stops /ⁿb ⁿd ⁿdz ⁿdʒ ⁿg/ may be phonemic; /ⁿd ⁿdz ⁿdʒ/ contrast with /md mdz mdʒ/, and there's generally no /n/...
by Nortaneous
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630535

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I would expect vocalization.
by Nortaneous
Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:58 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
Replies: 6633
Views: 764287

Re: Help your conlang fluency

ʔɛ́k ɗæ̀im ɾɑ̤ sʊlæ̰i ɾæ̀ ɓo̰k jɛ̀m ɾæ̀ kʰɛ́ɛm hɨ̄m bɑ̰ ʔī jí ɾɑ̤ jo̤o hɨ̄m cík mæ̀ lɛ̰ lǣ ʔɛ́k kɾí ɗæ̀im ɾɑ̤ tɪhǽu mɑ̀ ɡɑ̄ tæ̀. 1S play as peasant or person hill or slave one CLASS and NEG as animal one CLASS if COMP 1S would play as role INST PROX.S CLASS If I were to roleplay in this language, i...
by Nortaneous
Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:49 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 867516

Re: Romanization challenge thread

/m n ɲ (ŋ)/ /p b t d k g q/ /ts dz tʃ (dʒ)/ /f v s z ʃ ʒ ɬ ɣ h/ /r l j/ /i y u/ /e ø o/ /æ ɑ ɔ/ /ie yø uo ei øy ou æi ɑi ɑu oi/ /ɑpɑn ʒæk jæɣpitlɑtin tɑmnu bøɣɑnɑ. mæk buhɑɣpit. ɑisu gid budzɑqi mæk tsɑdinul ʃɑɣulutid ɑisuneʒ. bælig ɑisuneʒ? leqip slɑvid jɑ mɑdʒɑrid jɑ romɑnid jɑ tyrkid ɑisunid ɲiet...