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Carl → [kʰɑˑl]

earl, twirl, curl → [ɪ:l]

rural → [rɔ:rəl]

squirrel → [skwɪrəl]

early → [ɪ:li]

I think the 'er' vowel being pronounced [ɪ:] or maybe [e:] is quite distinctive of my dialect. My /r/ varies between a tap and the usual British English /ɹ/ (or whatever it usually is).

Couldn't "El Hombre araña" be analysed as having 'hombre' as an adjective. I'm sure I've read that adjectives before the noun in Spanish tend to have a slightly different nuance (such as unexpectedness - man-spiders are quite unexpected...). That's how I processed it in my brain, but I'm not a nativ...

Liverpool: Scousers (or Liverpudlians, although Liverpudlians usually say 'scousers' when referring to them/ourselves, I don't really like the word though...)

I realise I always go on about Gulf Arabic but what the hell.... Kuwaiti and Iraqi Arabic prefer initial clusters over final clusters (and even medial clusters get changed into initial clusters sometimes!). MSA -> Kuwaiti Arabic baqara -> bgara qahwa -> ghawa maghrib -> mgharib katabat (she wrote) -...

Me (looking very gay) I really wonder why the "looking very gay" was added, in a thread that's primaliry a gay love fest... JAL Because I wanna join the gay love fest, of course! Oh and Finlay, I was thinking to myself "I'm sure Finlay studies/studied in York, wouldn't it be funny if I bumped into ...

Me (looking very gay) from my trip to York yesterday.

Gulf Arabic uses b- for the future (a contracted form of abi 'I want'), baakil 'I will eat' baruu7 'I will go', 'ra7' is used as well, but less frequently. I'm not sure about sa- but I think I've heard that Yemeni and some UAE & Omani dialects still use it? I just did a quick search and it seems tha...

@Gojera, thanks I didn't realise the FSI courses were online, the Turkish one seems reasonable.

And yeah Turkish does seem quite awesome, I'm surprised at how many Arabic loanwords there are (well, I guess they came from Persian but they're still recognisable to me), should be fun!

Thanks for typing 'learn Turkish' into google, wikipedia and amazon, really appreciate it. I take my snide comment back.

For fuck's sake Liz, I'm asking for recommendations from people who have studied Turkish, specifically ZBB members because I believe they are more likely to know what's what than the average Amazon reviewer or Google 'LEARN TURKISH NOW' website. Now stop being an annoying brat, kthnxbai.

Yeah, not a big fan of that one either, Liz.

Already tried that, thanks.

For anyone who wants to help, I'm specifically looking for less 'touristy phrase book' materials.

Having met a bunch of friendly Turks who are going to be around for a while, I've decided to take the opportunity to learn Turkish - I was wondering if anyone could recommend some good books or sites, or just any general tips?
Thanks!

Even then, they did find [ʁ] in the speech of older rural males in the northeast of England when they did the Survey of English Dialects. It's known as a Northumberland, or County Durham (I forget which), burr – I don't know if it's still attested in anyone's speech or anything, though. Traditional...

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xD I can't help it if I find someone attractive.

Lucky we're only one city apart then

The first one is found idiosyncratically throughout the English-speaking world AFAIK. I've heard it from kids here and in Texas - it's generally considered a speech defect. Yeah - it's very much a dialectal feature of the Southeast here, made famous by Johnathan Ross (or 'Wossy') though. I genuinel...

Me looking angrily at something....

I have [4] unless I'm trying to speak posh, in which case I have no idea how to represent it in IPA.

Thanks for all the advice, have started messing around with GIMP a bit, haven't got very far yet. Does anyone know if it's possible to draw contour lines in GIMP? and how? (or would inkscape or something else be better suited)?

Well, as Zompist says, you need a decent graphics program (GIMP is free, but a lot of people sneer at it), a lot of patience and a lot of practice. You don't need a tablet, but I'm sure they make things easier. Then follow some tutorials. Zomp has a couple on his website, and there are a load at th...

After looking Zompist's maps and various other maps (especially those from the AkanaWiki), I would like to know how to create a decent looking map. I want to go for the more Atlasy type look than a fantasy world look. Which tools do most people use? I would really like to know how that Akana map was...

1. Where were you born? Liverpool 2. What is your native language? English 3. What other languages besides English and your native language do you know? Chinese, Arabic 4. How old are you? 22 5. How old were you when you first began to study English? 0 6. How did you learn English? (academically or ...

You're either forgetting or do not know that the IPA in fact does have symbols for epiglottals: [ʡ] and [ʢ], plosive and voiced fricative, respectively. These were in fact introduced, afaik, just for the Arabic sounds. Isn't this backwards? I've always heard that the vast majority of languages with...

This is what I know about Kuwaiti (and probably the rest of the Gulf) kinship terms. Mother and Father: Children directly addressing parents use 'yumma' (mother) and 'yuba' (father). When not directly addressing them, 'ubuuy' (my father) and 'ummi' (my mother) are used. Brother and Sister: Siblings ...

best treated as allophones /bˤ mˤ fˤ lˤ/ which is it to be Sorry I wasn't too clear about the pharyngealised-allophones part. Most of the time these only appear if the word contains another pharyngealised consonant - some other consonants also cause pharyngealisation ( notably /q g x ɣ/ ) therefore...