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by Legion
Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:00 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Google launches the Endangered Language Project
Replies: 73
Views: 11915

Re: Google launches the Endangered Language Project

Terra wrote:the United States's solidarity
No such thing.
by Legion
Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:44 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: French animal and food metaphors
Replies: 39
Views: 9537

French animal and food metaphors

Here are some: (Word or phrase — literal meaning — metaphorical meaning) asperge — asparagus — tall and thin person banane — banana — moron bœuf — ox, beef — jam session bonne poire — good pear — gullible person canard — duck — false note carne — low quality meat, bad horse — low-life, low-life woma...
by Legion
Wed May 16, 2012 11:39 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Most Important Natural Languages?
Replies: 77
Views: 12969

Re: Most Important Natural Languages?

Granted, US libraries are heavily overrepresented in this database but (a) most of the ZBB is based in the USA and (b) the USA still publishes more new titles annually than any other country. (Moreover, many "new" publications outside the US are translations of works originally published there.) Th...
by Legion
Tue May 15, 2012 9:38 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The coping thread
Replies: 85
Views: 21820

Re: The coping thread

I don't. It's always there, never lurking far, so I got used to it.
by Legion
Thu May 10, 2012 2:59 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 651529

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

Torco wrote:
Legion wrote:
Torco wrote:there's a difference between judgment of speech acts and censorship.
100% of censors agree with you.
100% of censors also agree that drinking water once in a while is good for your health
I am pretty sure this can be proven false.
by Legion
Thu May 10, 2012 1:02 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 651529

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

Torco wrote:there's a difference between judgment of speech acts and censorship.
100% of censors agree with you.
by Legion
Wed May 02, 2012 9:46 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: promise + INF
Replies: 11
Views: 2245

Re: promise + INF

Today I started to write: I promised my better half to pick up some bread... and swiftly changed that to: I promised my better half I'd pick up some bread... The first version shouldn't be ambiguous in context, but sounds quite awkward. I guess there's a rule in English to take the nearest NP as th...
by Legion
Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:41 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
Replies: 812
Views: 208970

Re: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2

Also the only French people who know what "zain" is, and to whom it will have positive connotations, are horse affictionados.

To everyone else it will sound like "zinzin" ("loony").
by Legion
Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:32 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?
Replies: 30
Views: 5593

Re: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?

As I see it, it's a narrative equivalence. In English, in a narrative present frame, verbs that are unmarked for any other parameter will take the simple present if they're stative, and the present continuous if they're dynamic. French has a similar phenomenon, but in a narrative past frame. That is...
by Legion
Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:40 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?
Replies: 30
Views: 5593

Re: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?

Serafín > I think you're confusing things pointlessly; we're trying to observe morphosyntaxic behaviour triggered by dynamic/stative difference. So we need to put the two verbs in the exact same conditions, with no other changing parameter than the dynamic/stative contrast. In English, this is done ...
by Legion
Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:08 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?
Replies: 30
Views: 5593

Re: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?

A good test to see this is to see which French tense is used to translate an English preterit: dynamic verbs will use the perfect (or the preterit in some literary context), whereas stative verbs will use the imperfect, so we get: He killed a man > Il a tué un homme He became sad > Il est devenu tr...
by Legion
Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:58 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?
Replies: 30
Views: 5593

Re: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?

For instance English generally treats "to see" as stative and "to watch" as dynamic, whereas French treats both "voir" and "regarder" as stative. What sort of formal test we could use in French and Spanish to know this? Actually I think I spoke too fast: while French doesn't make a contrast between...
by Legion
Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:33 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Polysynthesis for Novices
Replies: 170
Views: 191309

Re: Polysynthesis for Novices

Well, you have the basic sentence structure of French, so say: "Marie aime Mozart". Then you have the so called "dislocations", where an argument of the verb is moved around, and ends up removed from the verb position. When this happens, the rule is that whatever element has been removed must be re...
by Legion
Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:04 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?
Replies: 30
Views: 5593

Re: Do Any Languages Lack Transitive Stative Verbs?

Stative/dynamic isn't that a solid and objective distinction anyway. In two languages that morphologically or syntaxically contrast dynamic/stative verbs, you can have the same verb be stative in the first language and dynamic in the second. For instance English generally treats "to see" as stative ...
by Legion
Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:57 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Polysynthesis for Novices
Replies: 170
Views: 191309

Re: Polysynthesis for Novices

Well this depends how we analyse those verbs and what polysynthetic languages can do, which is like I like Whimemsz to tell us: can polysynthetic languages have transitive verbs with null object, used as a generic statement like in Indo-European languages (eg "He's eating" vs "He's eating chicken")...
by Legion
Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:04 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Anal Retentive's Modern Usage
Replies: 11
Views: 3366

Re: Anal Retentive's Modern Usage

Freud is only about penis, poop and being in love with Yng's mom. Anyone who claims otherwise is part of the Global Psychanalist Conspiracy To Take Control Of My Wallet.
by Legion
Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:49 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Polysynthesis for Novices
Replies: 170
Views: 191309

Re: Polysynthesis for Novices

Though I realise there are also cases of direct object dropping outside of ditransitive verbs, very common sentences like "Mozart, j'aime" (for literary "Mozart, je l'aime") or "Il est venu hier, je sais" (literary "je le sais"). Out of curiosity why do you analyze these are direct object dropping?...
by Legion
Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:17 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Polysynthesis for Novices
Replies: 170
Views: 191309

Re: Polysynthesis for Novices

The "je vais le lui donner" > "je vais lui donner" change is almost systematic, however I wonder if that wouldn't be a case of phonemic reduction. (The schwa in le ought to be dropped, leading to something like [llɥi]. It doesn't seem unreasonable that it would get further reduced to [lɥi]. The sim...
by Legion
Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:25 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Polysynthesis for Novices
Replies: 170
Views: 191309

Re: Polysynthesis for Novices

8 - How Does Polysynthesis Arise? That article on French just blew my mind, thanks! I've said it before, but the main obstacle to analyse French as polysynthetic is that it doesn't satisfy the "morphological visibility constraint". Not only all arguments are not marked on the verbs, but in fact, mo...
by Legion
Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:49 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Irish Cyrillic alphabet
Replies: 22
Views: 8581

Re: Irish Cyrillic alphabet

GreenBowTie wrote:Disclaimer: I don't know a goddamn thing about anything I'm talking about
Yeah.
by Legion
Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:27 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: British English vowels
Replies: 10
Views: 2621

Re: British English vowels

A not unsane vowel system in English :O???

(It's more likely than you think)
by Legion
Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:11 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: ZBB member photos, part 5. (Something for the weekend, sir?)
Replies: 5496
Views: 788953

Re: ZBB member photos, part 5. (Something for the weekend, s

In my experience female dogs are generally more manic than males. You meet a female dog for the first time and she's like, super double extra happy to see you man!!!
by Legion
Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:30 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: A Chinese rant about the French language
Replies: 32
Views: 6849

Re: A Chinese rant about the French language

Fun fact: when giving out a Canadian phone number, politeness mandates that you arrange the numerals from the lowest to the highest value.
by Legion
Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:14 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: PIE to Latin - Grammatical Changes
Replies: 18
Views: 3385

Re: PIE to Latin - Grammatical Changes

[ɛsk izõpa skə ty ʃɛrʃ] and writing Est-ce qu'ils n'ont pas ce que tu cherches? That's a bit disingenuous, written French is at least capable of more faithfully render this as Est-ce qu'ils ont pas c'que tu cherches? (and "ne" is occasionally, though inconsistently, maintained in speech). And futhe...