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that sort of thing : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_ne ... in_English

Genderrrrr ideology often try reengineering language, believing in linguistic relativity to erase unappropriate comportments... They think better humanity can be obtained by totalitarian way... That's madness, only willing reason can... Is Laadan design made for the wish of erasing/enforcing female ...

The only way to preserve a language is to have a large community willing to speak it and for their children to have a reason to stick with it and pass it to their children and so on. This reminds me of Esperantists... This way pass by the struggle against dominant languages... especially now on num...

You should post in your mother tongue...
The only way to preserve minority languages is to use them in modern media... Instead of English...

Written language never cease to exist... Many endangered languages aren't written. that why they are in danger... Writing a translation of their says is the only way to survive them... Iliad was an oral tale nobody could ever know except by its written transcription... Arabian night also, and even ...

if no one can read what was written, does writing in and of itself really preserve the language? I spoke about existing, but it can be revitalized if texts had been translated when the language was just endangered... The bridge of translation is, with the knowledge of language of the same family, t...

In Roman languages where any word has a gender, sex and grammatical gender are disconnected...
This is an English point of view to think sex and grammatical gender describe the same concept...

I agree with this feeling about some translations... Translation is an art, some choices are so brilliant they increase the force of the original... But for feeling it we have to know the two languages... Translation can give to all with the knowledge of one... In an emergency situation the choice i...

A little far from phonology...

Even a huge lexicon and a complete grammar of a language cannot replace the simple translation of the simpliest tale in it... For ever every man will die... No matter the sound of his voice for who did not know him... but he'll carried away all his thought and experience into nothingness... May we c...

a begining of answer...
why reducing consonants for female...
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/halshs ... 1/document
why avoiding some consonants for female...
http://www.newswise.com/articles/voice-appeal

How many masterpieces we can really appreciate in their original language...
How many masterpieces we know by their translation only...
Translation is an art of choice, any human thinking can be translated in all languages...
If one says Traduttore, traditore, one can say the same for reading...

Written language never cease to exist... Even if some need difficult work to be resurrected for the time to be translated... This tranlation is the special point of view on the world that can be lost for ever, the language, the vector, can be changed to bring it along the time... WIthout linguistic ...

Weak linguistic relativity is real. That was already explained to you but maybe you missed it. weak sapir whorf thesis is so...weak that it brings nothing real special to any language... And no one needs to learn Latin or Greek grammar and literature in order to understand modern technical jargon d...

xxx: Have you actually read all the posts in your thread? Language is not only a vector for culture. What I read is cultural loss principaly... In addition, works in a language are not only interesting for their base propositional content. Etymology and wordplay and poetic structure are also there,...

The phonology of the Láadan which is built for a predominantly feminine use, bizarrely has a lack of certain consonants (Láadan has “b” and “d”, but not “p”, “t”, “k”, nor “g”; it has “th”, but not “s”)... That puzzles me, without knowing it, I partly reproduce this lack when I distinguished a femin...

Whatever the cause of this extinction, if languages are only vectors of culture, would not it be more appropriate to concentrate on translations to preserve what will disappear...

I don't think linguistic diversity uncool (conlanging is a sort of GMO linguistic diversity making)...
But the parrallel between biodiversity urgency and linguistic diversity danger seems something a little biased...

Cardinal directions can be defined in other ways than magnetism. The cardinal points are anterior to the invention of magnetism, and according to the observation of the sun... The lure of heliocentrism tries, without succeeding, to make less obvious this folk definition... We do not always have a c...

Culture can bring new knowledge on the world we live on...
Language if no linguistic relativity is real, nope...
And a special human mind for a peculiar language without language relativity proved...

Why fighting against the disappearance of languages...
If linguistic relativity is not a fact, it does not matter which language bears a particular culture in danger that must be saved ...

snappdragon wrote:Uhm... the only thing I can respond to this is #ExistentialPhilosophy

what about leaving art/philosophy/science to engineers...

We risk losing the main ...
The immoderate use of computers begins to have even negative repercussions on the conceptualization in science ...
How much more for this ephemeral art which tries to bring us closer to ourselves, and which has no last end in the real external world ...

I use my conlang in real life... But I'm not sure it describes the same world...

I use my brain...
Sometimes paper & pen for compounding words...
.ttf file to make them pretty in libreoffice writer...
and each time, I delete them after...