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by Zju
Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:07 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 81162

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

Finnish päivä "day" could be cognate to proto-Indo-European * péh₂ur if we assume that the -r was not part of the stem. I admit that's quite a leap of faith, though, and I was originally planning to connect the PIE word to Finnish tuli , claiming /tw/ > /p/ and /l/~/r/, until I realized that the /r...
by Zju
Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:51 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 81162

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

What are the best papers/websites to get acquainted myself with the latest developments and understandings of Proto-Yukaghir and and Proto-Uralic reconstructions and of their last common predecesor?
by Zju
Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:30 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 81162

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

According to this paper all the words in this wordlist are borrowings, but is it really likely that a lot of basic vocabulary such as 'not', 'eat', 'come', 'breast', 'go', 'die', 'say', 'skin', 'under', 'snow', 'moon', 'mouth', 'suck' etc. are all borrowings? The differentiation of vocabulary in two...
by Zju
Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:59 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Could the Pregreek substrate be related to the P(B)Sl substrate named as Temematic? It also had a plosive shift.
by Zju
Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:38 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Has anyone established a connection between *bʰergʰ- to safeguard, to protect; to preserve and *bʰerǵʰ- to rise; high, lofty; hill, mountain ? WIktionary gives one more meaning for the latter - [fortified] elevation - but this is in an etymology section of a germanic word and the fort/castle sense s...
by Zju
Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

What do people here think of the idea that the reflexive *swe (clitic *se-) and *so, the suppletive nom.sg of *to- "that", could go back to the original third person pronoun? I know that demonstratives quite frequently become thirdpersonal pronouns, but is the opposite even attasted? I can't imagin...
by Zju
Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:29 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620907

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Are retroflex vowels as distinct from rhotacised vowels a thing? As in, the tongue is pulled back, but not curled up.
by Zju
Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:51 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Digital Voice Synthesizer
Replies: 6
Views: 2857

Re: Digital Voice Synthesizer

Is it only me, or does this synthethise only dolphin clicks and whistles?
by Zju
Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:47 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620907

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Yes, Prussian is supposed to have kept the neuter gender, while Eastern Baltic (=Lithuanian and Latvian) turned all neuters into male nouns. So the problem is not the ending -(a)n in Prussian, but whether -o in Slavic is a regular outcome of PIE *-om . According to Kortlandt, PIE *-om changed early...
by Zju
Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:47 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: European languages before Indo-European
Replies: 812
Views: 196685

Re: European languages before Indo-European

I honestly can't tell what the argument is about. How do you define language stock? Before the PIE hypothesis existed, Germanic, Romance, Slavi, Indic, etc. were all different stocks. After it, they became one. It'd be useful to define what 'language stock' means first and then judge how many there ...
by Zju
Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:43 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620907

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Also, could anyone tell me whence came the Old Prussian nominative ending *-an or *-n? Old Prussian assaran (meaning lake) corresponds to Lithuanian ežeras (with a circumflex accent on the first syllable,) Polish jezioro, and Russian ozero. The word appears to have originated from Proto-Balto-Slavi...
by Zju
Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 620907

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Where do the voiced clusters in the Greek words hebdomad and ogdoad come from? Im not really expecting anyone to have the answer, since if it was known it'd probably be in the etymology on Wiktionary. Im just idly wondering. If I had to make a guess at it myself, I'd say its probably borrowing from...
by Zju
Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Conlang relay [relocated] (aka "The Cursed Relay")
Replies: 2538
Views: 889949

Re: Conlang relay [relocated] (aka "The Cursed Relay")

When does writing reach West, Central and East Tuysáfa?
by Zju
Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:53 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I've been thinking of starting my own (semi-)serious research on PIE and or PIU. The first step in any case would be compiling materials and I've been wondering if it's cool to redistribute what I've compiled. As in, if only one IE-ist has reconstructed a paradigm in a certain way and that reconstru...
by Zju
Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:44 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: European languages before Indo-European
Replies: 812
Views: 196685

Re: European languages before Indo-European

I am currently working on a dictionary of possible Aquan loanwords in western IE languages. There is still a lot of work to do - I am currently about halfway through Matasović's Etymological Dictionary of Proto-Celtic , and then comes Germanic - but some patterns begin to form which are broadly in ...
by Zju
Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:35 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

According to Wiktionary proto Germanic *bedō (“request, plea”) comes directly from PIE *gʷʰedʰ-eh₂. Since when is *gʷʰ → *b established for PGm? Shouldn't that rather be considered a loan from proto Celtic?
by Zju
Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:11 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I'm talking about copying from PDF per se, without any modification it looks like this: * ptnéh 2 mi > ‘to spread out’, * skdnéh 2 mi > $ ‘to scatter’), so did such a vowel develop in an initial cluster of the type * h 1 CC- . So, * h 1 CC- yielded * h 1 iCC- > ( CC- . 39 And I have to painstakingly...
by Zju
Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

That is indeed interesting! It can't be quite that simple, though, due to the likely doublet *dwi- "two" and *h₁wi- "apart" (a preverb). I think the word for twenty is also pretty strong evidence of the alternation within the prefix for two itself. The question is then what was the conditioning fac...
by Zju
Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:58 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Single-phoneme "and"
Replies: 17
Views: 6563

Re: Single-phoneme "and"

Bulgarian uses five out of its six vowels as standalone words, and the sixth as interjection: /a/ - and, but /ɔ/ - at (archaic); oh! /u/ - in (for animate nouns) /ɛ/ - is (be.3.SG.PRS) /i/ - and /ɤ/ - huh?; well... but there's more: /f/ - in (or /v/, I'm sure it could be analysed as either) /s/ - wi...
by Zju
Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:43 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Thanks! I'll try to sneak in extra examples (perhaps if I can work out a good way to do footnotes, I don't want to disrupt the flow) I have read Kloekhorst's article, although I sourced the notion of a variant of *wed- with *h₁ from this article . It is of course possible that the o/e ablauting nou...
by Zju
Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:40 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I doubt *h₁ being a reflex of earlier **f, as all laryngeals have been linked with PU velars. As for the vowels, I subsribe to Kümmel's view that /e o/ were indeed [ɛ ɔ] in late PIE, but come from early PIE /a a:/ and further I think that late PIE /a/ simply comes from early PIE /a/ that never shift...
by Zju
Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:38 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "of hers a doll"
Replies: 10
Views: 4078

Re: "of hers a doll"

Do you guys know of any language that has adpositions (and I mean true, particle-like adpositions, not verb-like things), and that allows placing the adpositional phrase before a noun modified by it? That is, such a language would allow things such as, literally, word by word, "of hers a doll" (mea...
by Zju
Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:11 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Conlang relay [relocated] (aka "The Cursed Relay")
Replies: 2538
Views: 889949

Re: Conlang relay [relocated] (aka "The Cursed Relay")

Oh man, I should really finish Pyvyy, given how little I have left, and in the recent months I've been getting ideas about redoing my pan-Tuysáfa language family. In the meantime I've been wondering if setting up some DBs would make reconstruction of PR easier.
by Zju
Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:37 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Germanic /p/
Replies: 12
Views: 3774

Re: Germanic /p/

Accepting Kluge's Law could allow us to rework the etymologies of words which are traced back to PIE morphemes containing /b/ solely because of the perceived Germanic cognates. Still, there are words like "apple" that cannot be explained by Kluge's law. Yes, and in general any Germanic word contain...
by Zju
Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:34 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 454512

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Gitxsan has a dorsal plosive inventory of /c kʷ q cʼ kʷʼ qʼ/ with /c cʼ/ being realised as [k kʼ] before /s l/. It's parent language, Proto-Tsimshian, has a dorsal plosive inventory of /k kʷ q qʷ kʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʷʼ/, and while no sound changes were listed, it's rather obvious where palatals came from. A...