Coptic apparently has x > š unconditionally, or at least as best we know given Egyptian phonology. It may have even been h>š. That's t least halfway by itself, and I think in uncodnitional
Š>j is reasonable.
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- Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:01 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Any languages show h > j?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 6507
- Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:20 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Ces Cuath scratchpad
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2144
Re: Ces Cuath scratchpad
I like what I see so far. I like vertical vowel inventories in general , and complex but not entirely symmetric consonant inventories. Can palatalization be contrastive within a cluster? E.g. can there be /amʲka/? As in Gaelic. If so how do the vowel allophones behave when before a palatalized conso...
- Sun Nov 26, 2017 3:56 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 452400
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
If it's a loan, it really has to be PIE > Semitic because the PIE root is also attested without the additional suffix. It would be odd for Semitic to add a meaningless /-n/ while PIE also added an /-n/ of a different meaning. Therefore since it is attested only with the suffix in Semitic, the PIE mu...
- Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:58 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 452400
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
There was a discussion of this relatively recently on the WordReference forums: https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/horn.3391577/ ah, thanks. That brightened up my day. I didn't realize that the Arabic word for horn was borrowed from "corner" by way of an ancient Biblical manuscript. #til ÷÷÷÷÷...
- Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:10 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Terghbaz (Generic Orkish)
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5825
Re: Terghbaz (Generic Orkish)
So the -/g/ morpheme marks plurality on both nouns and verbs? Also, I might have found a tiny inconstistency, and if not, I have a question. You mention that -g has an allomorph of /k/ after non-velar stops, including /p/ ... but there is no [p] according to the description in the first post, except...
- Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:44 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
- Replies: 217
- Views: 80053
Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Just a comment, PIE just seems to have a lot of long roots. 4 consonants just to say "fire"? (assuming laryngeals are consonants, which almost everyone now agrees). The root for milk has 4 consoinants too, and the root for "four" has either three or four depending on how you count. If most of its wo...
- Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:04 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 791755
Re: Lexicon Building
Im not quite sure how to go about this .... the translation I want is "own-name". That is, "I own-named the contract", which comnjugates fine as a verb but I have no idea how to write the dictionary form. Poswa: Wifurifupi šoppabibi . I signed the contract. I guess that means "name" is an inalienabl...
- Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:13 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Geology and Sound Change
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4167
Re: Geology and Sound Change
It has also been claimed that people in cold climates are more likely to use close vowels /i/ and /u/ prominently whereas in warmer climates you hear more /a/. This is to keep the amount of cold or rushing into the mouth aslt a minimum. I read somewhere that Russians are more likely than other Europ...
- Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:17 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 151789
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Interesting, thanks. I didnt know that. I actually pronounced this one right, but I imagine I must have simply heard it somewhere ,probably in college, and never thought about it. It never occurred to me to question the etymology, but if asked for my best guess I'd probably have said that scar was i...
- Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:16 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: ZBB Conlang Index (check the first post)
- Replies: 43
- Views: 25960
Re: ZBB Conlang Index
Ive moved from KneeQuickie to FrathWiki, so my 2 main conlangs are at http://frathwiki.com/Poswa and http://frathwiki.com/Pabappa now, and http://frathwiki.com/Khulls is pretty well-developed in most ways as well. Im planning to eventually move everything to http://www.pabappa.com/ , but it's going ...
- Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:06 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Terghbaz (Generic Orkish)
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5825
Re: Terghbaz (Generic Orkish)
This looks pretty well made so far. The phonotactics seem well thought out, and while the sturdiness of /ʌ/ seems odd, Im guessing you chose that on purpose fully aware that it stands close to two of the other vowels. Some people say that English lax vowels, especially /ʌ/, have a rude sound. Did th...
- Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:00 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: British Sitcoms
- Replies: 35
- Views: 15110
Re: British Sitcoms
I really liked KUA as a child... but I think that's the right age for it. It relies heavily on catchphrases and over-the-top slapstick, and is very repetitive. Even then, though, the performances are good - so much of the humour comes not from the zany side, but from Onslow and Richard as the strai...
- Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:57 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meanings
- Replies: 313
- Views: 110537
Re: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meani
Dont worry, there's a fetish for thatHydroeccentricity wrote:I hate to burst your bubbles
Also, tbh, it didnt occur to me that the -vore in "carnivore" etc was the same morpheme as in vorarephilia, but now it seems obvious.
- Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:41 am
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: The dream thread
- Replies: 1807
- Views: 314545
Re: The dream thread
An Italian family named podipi was owning a farm a very large farm around here and they claim their name meant Peapod and had a few other explanations of their name and I was at that farm and they had a big circular logo and I was very interested in that and I was thinking about wanting to work ther...
- Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:52 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 740086
Re: Help your conlang fluency
ama nya tam ka time for 2pl Q When did you all arrive? 2002s pabubo. Tofošam šivel pembi, "Conlangia" šoppafel. 2002, i think. Came over from another board called Conlangia. --------- Povemba pempem fwoša; pempe pwimmefwafa. ---- Ecco Pappapa All life in the sea is frightened; this makes the sea a ...
- Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:05 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Mfalen: an attempted initial sketch
- Replies: 20
- Views: 12198
Re: Mfalen: an attempted initial sketch
Verbal incorporation Mfalen does not (oddly enough) allow the incorporation of nouns within a verb, but it does allow incorporation of other verbs. An incorporated verb does not usually bring arguments with it, but rather expresses a mean or a result of the action. While the verb must share subject...
- Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:50 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meanings
- Replies: 313
- Views: 110537
Re: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meani
Well as an amateur linguist it bothers me to have such a hideous word, not to mention difficult to spell. How do I pronounce it? Why are we using the infinitive? And why a Latin word, when many a Greek one would do? I say its high time vore practitioners joined with the salirophiles to create better...
- Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Keeping track of derived terms?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1885
Re: Keeping track of derived terms?
thanks ..... thanks this sounds like a good idea for me .... I think that every once in awhile I stumble across a word in my dictionary that seems wrong because the derivation of that word was formed at an early stage when the sound rules we're different and therefore is actually correct after all ....
- Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:58 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Words you've learned recently
- Replies: 248
- Views: 81113
Re: Words you've learned recently
Deodand - a thing that has caused the death of a person, and that is therefore to be forfeited to God (or to the earthly authorities, who donate the thing or its value to a religious cause). Deodands were abolished in English law in 1846, in order to protect the railway companies. Not guns ? I'm gu...
- Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meanings
- Replies: 313
- Views: 110537
Re: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meani
Thanks for the saithe word ...i haven't heard that since 4th grade and I for some reason thought that it was spelled sath and that it was a species of dinosaur. ("Look at those *sath go!") I am not sure how that word ended up in the vocabulary of my classmate, particularly since it seems to be more ...
- Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:27 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 791755
Re: Lexicon Building
Sorry, I forgot. Is Tautisca a Germanic language run through Latin--> Romance sound changes, or something else? I notice that /wodina/ looks like it could only have come from proto-Germanic or a very early stage of one of the individual languages. Sorry, I haven't been on the ZBB for a couple of da...
- Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:33 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Why does Lat. /ka'tena/ > N. It. /kad'æŋna/?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4830
Re: Why does Lat. /ka'tena/ > N. It. /kad'æŋna/?
Romanian preserves neuters and so does Italian in a sense so I think that Proto Romance must have as well. So the differences that there are are a problem of weather it is reflected phonetically or grammatically. For example there are nouns in Italian that are masculine in the singular and feminine ...
- Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:57 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Coordinative compounds
- Replies: 0
- Views: 4193
Coordinative compounds
Poswa has a category of words like bes "beavers and trees", pobe "boys and girls", pabba "rabbits with carrots", and pipti "children with apples", fongop "bears and deer", and so on that has no close parallel even in closely related languages such as Pabappa. These words evolved due to the strict SO...
- Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:15 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Why does Lat. /ka'tena/ > N. It. /kad'æŋna/?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4830
Re: Why does Lat. /ka'tena/ > N. It. /kad'æŋna/?
Vowel lenthv was lost in all R langs, so this change would need to have occurred in many other words. Perhaps it is indeed a tgpo, in tbe map isstelf, and there is only /N/, not /Nn/. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallo-Italic_languages says that eng is a reflex of intervocapic /n/ and that it is...
- Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:04 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Your first conscript
- Replies: 14
- Views: 6531
Re: Your first conscript
I like your style. Several of the letters there are identical to glyphs in my only current conscript, the Gold syllabary (it covers the entire planet, but is named after the language it originated in.) Will post on pabappa.com , as I said earlier. In particular the "U", "G", "R", "W", and "M" glyphs...