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nye hina kyo'alapua ka reason here be.quiet-become-PFV Q Why has this place gone quiet? anka aldi kadinu-r xanna Everyone's enjoying the sun outside. [Chileans don't apply.] meina-r ibu, yeknu shi parraba-r yai kup-esh ienka-r ten budri su lui mexokna udul-i sra budri paudei srana-i Or just being t...

How do languages without prepositions express "without" as the opposite of "with", in either its instrumental or comitative (?) senses? Mandarin Chinese manages using 没有 mei2 you3 'not have'. Note that although Mandarin regularly uses coverbs in a serial verb construction, 没有 mei2you3 is not a cove...

<Whimemsz> Ojibwe has a number of different words that mostly are some combination of maa (a discourse particle) and ge~gaye (a general conjunction), with the basic meaning "maybe/perhaps". Gemaa or maage being the most common, but then there's also just gaye on its own, or gemaa gaye . Also possibl...

7. External possessors in dative case. (e.g. German Die mutter wusch dem Kinde die Haare, lit. the mother washes the child the hair) What would the meaning be if "Kinde" was in the genitive instead? Would it just be ungrammatical and have no meaning? This question goes for any language, not just Ge...

I have a couple questions about "or". Do you guys know if there are languages without a nice, short, one morpheme-long equivalent of non-interrogative "or" (as in "I am always [either] here or there")? Also, is there a term for "or" questions, such as "Do you want X or Y?" These don't quite seem lik...

Je parle les langues que je connais avec un accent espagnol aussi. Et ego linguas, quibus loqui possum, sono Hispanico enuntio. 我也用西班牙语口音说我的语言。 I also speak my languages with a Spanish accent. J'admets que je ne supporte même pas d'entendre des enregistrements de moi-même. Fateor autem me ne impress...

新地, yeah.

I think question 6 could be worded much better: 6. Anticausitive prominence: the intransitive verb is derived from the transitive. (e.g. The flame melts the ice -> The ice melts) [full marks for over 70% of intransitives derived from transitive; half marks for over 50%] It's spelled "anticaus a tive...

Actually, when I think about it, you could analyze it as ali-bnu, arguing that the i is epenthetic.

Anyway, R. M. W. Dixon says that the last syllable in a phrase in the Jarawara language is nasalized and bears rising intonation.

Yeah, al-ibnu.

I was thinking of things in MSA like ibni 'my son' vs. hādhā bni 'this is my son', where ibn does not begin with a hamza. Does Classical Arabic not have the word ibn ? Does it have only bin or what? Sorry, I just don't know much about (Classical) Arabic. :P Oh, that, I see. In Classical Arabic that...

I'm personally not really sure what you're looking for here, tbh. Do you mean my purpose of making this thread? Nah, I think I'm mostly just confused by your Arabic example because I thought that alternation depended on whether the next word began with a vowel or not, not on whether the word was ph...

Vijay wrote:I'm personally not really sure what you're looking for here, tbh.

Do you mean my purpose of making this thread? Mostly just to make people aware that phrase-final allophones and allomorphs exist. I don't recall ever seeing a conlang that had this.

I thought that my English, although not terribly rich, is at least clear. It is really not clear. if you try to figure it through another language, and especially through English, you will find it difficult No, it's not a problem of the English language. The thing is, the way you present things dev...

zompist wrote:True of Mandarin third tone, too, which is [21] within a phrase, [213] at the end of one.

That's not as nice an example as Min Nan, since people often use [21] at the end of a phrase too... but, yes, it is an example of the phenomenon.

Whimemsz has informed me Cheyenne devoices all phrase-final vowels.

What are some examples you guys know of phrase-final allophones or allomorphs? That is, when a different form of a word is used right before a pause. This is attested in Standard Arabic as well as in Min Nan. In Classical Arabic, and by extension in the higher registers of Modern Standard Arabic, ma...

What really baffles me is the people who appear to earnestly be saying "more ...er" and "most ...est", which doesn't really bother me since it's not making English into a degenerate analytic language (I mean, one of the first examples I heard was "most expensivest") but still makes me go like "wher...

Hoy empecé mi prime r día a en mi nuevo trabajo como cajero en u n supermercado. Estaré Seré cajero por 2 semanas y despu é s emp ezaré mi trabajo verdadero donde estaré seré un tipo de asistente de compras para un servicio donde los clientes hacen compras en línea. Hacemos compras por el cliente e...

Very true.

If you decide to render all relationships of location as cases, I wonder, though, whether it wouldn't be easier (or more common) to analyze your cases as actually being adpositions.

evidence for

<Ser> in Spanish, it's funny <Ser> when you say "if he comes", that is, when you're not sure somebody's gonna come in the future, then you use the indicative present: si viene <Ser> but when you say "when he comes", that is, when you are sure somebody's gonna come in the future, then you use the sub...

zompist wrote:<coverb> <noun> <locative><classifier>

Are you talking about some dialect that's not Mandarin/Cantonese? Neither of those two uses classifiers for this construction.

zompist wrote:(Also, isn't slereah English?)

(He's (((French))). Still hangs out on isharia too, to this day.)