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- Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 630626
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I want a pushchain of kʷ > k > ć > č > t > ṭ > pʲ > p > pʷ ... for a vertical vowel inventory. /pʲ/ i slabiodental and therefore has to be spread-lipped, which causes a similar sound to palatalization and is seen as the same by the speakers. ṭ is true dental. I dont see any reason why not to do thiu...
- Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:17 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: What do you call this?
- Replies: 302
- Views: 92007
Re: What do you call this?
I would mistake that as a variant of https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/shtup even in contextk wrote:I have definitely heard and said [ʃtʊf] for stuff before.
- Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:25 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: The dream thread
- Replies: 1807
- Views: 321823
the ZBB isnt well optimized for mobile access andthats my main connection so i cant type very well. if Im not on mobile its because Im on this PC at my parents' house where neither the keyboard nor mouse works well. if i type coherently Ive either spellchecked it after Im done posting or prewrittten...
- Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:27 am
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: The dream thread
- Replies: 1807
- Views: 321823
Re: The dream thread
An elevator had stairs so people could get off one poor ahead of the stop. Thrvstaires led to back around and doors. But I was on the top floor so the floorbinwas trying to reach difnrbecidyrby.thevdoor didn't open and the space in was on began t collapse. This was a dream within a dream, and I reme...
- Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:38 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 809255
Re: Lexicon Building
next: stubborn; obstinate; unbending I want to use http://pabappa.com/pics/wrong-way-salmon2b.jpg but I dont have a stable word for "wrong" right now. Poswa: fufšep "stubborn", from tiu fučip "to self-teach a goal" ... that is, to have a goal and be one's own guide (teacher) in which goal to pursue...
- Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:55 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
- Replies: 217
- Views: 82756
Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
I was hoping for a post about the unity of the Amerindian languages, which is what youre supposed to be arguing for ... but you admitted a while back that you base that claim on a theory that the Amerindian people are unusually homogeneous for such a large population, and I dont think that's a viabl...
- Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:17 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
- Replies: 217
- Views: 82756
Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
I actually thought this was the Haida/Na-Dene thread at first, I guess I dont usually notice the titles ... in fact I accidentally posted this in the Trump thread and just now noticed and moved it. If a thousand Nigerians and a thousand Swedes had gotten together long ago and settled the Americas fr...
- Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:26 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
- Replies: 217
- Views: 82756
Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
We know that the Amerind population descends from a very small founder population, that had been isolated from all other populations for a very long time. We know that that population then spread out extremely rapidly across the whole of the Americas. There is as yet no evidence of any later migrat...
- Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:22 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 156759
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
I think the alternative pronunciation of parmesan is with a /z/... Nor necessarily borrowed from any language, just a spelling pronunciation I guess.
- Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:18 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lazarus, or on the determination of habitability
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10098
Re: Lazarus, or on the determination of habitability
There are some cities in the Red Sea region that are very hot but also humid: e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Muscat with temperatures comparable to the southwest USA and humidity comparable to Miami.
- Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:09 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
- Replies: 217
- Views: 82756
Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
The apparent lack of diversity among Amerind people's may be an illusion due to1)the founding populations do no match neatly to extant tribes in Asian 2l they have commingledwith each other 3l many tribes are small and difficult to place on a genetic tree since one family can have a disproportionate...
- Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:06 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lazarus, or on the determination of habitability
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10098
Re: Lazarus, or on the determination of habitability
I like the idea of humans confined to compact little habitats, perpetually on the verge of natural disasters from which they cannot flee. I imagine some of these humans may not know that other humans even exist.
- Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:37 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 461907
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Some laynrgs are attested as /x/ in Hittite so can't be too far off from that originally. That and that they are in most reconstructions allowed to appear between other consonants.
What did you mean by coincidence >borrowing>luck? I don't understand, was that a mistake? What is luck in this context?
What did you mean by coincidence >borrowing>luck? I don't understand, was that a mistake? What is luck in this context?
- Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:22 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 809255
Re: Lexicon Building
Poswa:
wapponupam baba "element 92"
Sorry couldn't think of something more original.
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Next:
iceberg, glacier
wapponupam baba "element 92"
Sorry couldn't think of something more original.
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Next:
iceberg, glacier
- Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:29 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "hydpographica"
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5291
"hydpographica"
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/qp9u28zt8neigeu/hydpo.jpg Saw this in a bathroom. I don't know if there's anything to be made of it ... I've always wondered if there were times when words were loaned by letterform instead of by sound. I havent been able to find even a single example of that in English, tho...
- Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:34 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: Confusing headlines and other trips down the garden path
- Replies: 1058
- Views: 228574
Re: Confusing headlines and other trips down the garden path
Those are good. I misread the Vatican headline even without the apostrophe since it would still be acceptable in headline-ese. ÷÷÷÷÷ This is the second time the former presidential candidate has injured herself on her India after slipping on steps at a 13th century harem I know harem can be a place ...
- Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "I like to ite, ite, ite iples and banienies" in a Canadian
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4612
Re: "I like to ite, ite, ite iples and banienies" in a Canad
My first instinct is to go with {b@'nVi.nai} which means that all of the vowels in the line except the last one are raised. But most people wouldn't notice the difference.
I'm in New England, where Canadian raising is in effect, but not to the schwa vowel.
I'm in New England, where Canadian raising is in effect, but not to the schwa vowel.
- Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:19 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 461907
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
One thing I noticed is that the PIE speakers are assumed to be culturally more advanced than the Uralic, and that it has been this way for more than 4000 years. Your model is difficult to explain given that all or nearly all loanwords seem to have gone the opposite direction. Edit: I misread but the...
- Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:01 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
- Replies: 161
- Views: 66366
Re: Haida and Na-Dene
Compare: PU: lämpi 'warmth' [HPUL] ~ PIE: leh₂p 'to glow' PFU: päŋi 'head' [HPUL], ? PFU poŋï 'bosom' [HPUL] ~ PIE: peh₂ǵ 'to attach' but where did the laryngeals come from? If lämpi is cognate to leh2p, what protoform could have left an /m/ in Uralic and an /h2/ in pie? Likewise, what protoform co...
- Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:21 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 630626
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Is the dental flap a variant of the coronal, always pharyngealizedm? I think that the pharyngealization would stick around longer than the dental articulation. Spanish did something very similar with its sibilants.... The palatal sibilants turned into apical sounds, which skipped past the alveolar s...
- Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:46 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6441
Re: How does dominant-recessive vowel harmony arise?
I'm not sure I believe in height based harmony.... It seems to be mentioned in early linguistic literature, but looking at the same languages being described I often see those same languages now described as having ATR harmony. I can't answer your last question,but my hunch is that the +ATR vowels a...
- Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:14 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Are the h and ng sounds allophones?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 18221
Re: Are the h and ng sounds allophones?
There's still post-tonic /h/ in Irish/Scottish names like Bohannon, Houlihan, Hearlihy, vs /N/ in Kiplinger, Singer, etc. I've read on Wikipedia that in Ireland the "gh" of names like Foughey is also pronounced. Edit: actually the H in Bohannon is probably stressed, don't know if that was original t...
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:29 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
- Replies: 161
- Views: 66366
Re: Haida and Na-Dene
Don't forget to put in the tones!!
- Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:09 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 809255
Re: Lexicon Building
next word: coffee Poswa: labropom , etymologically "coffee immersed drink" but with the first syllable /la/ "coffee" long since having merged with "hand" and several other words, hence not used in bare form. However Poswa might just be conservative enough to hang on to laref "to drink coffee" with ...
- Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:32 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 630626
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
It sounds like he's asking about having a language with uvular fricatives but no uvular stops, which I'm not sure is actually attested. It seems to be a European trait to have the fricative(s) without the stops, but in those European languages there are either no contrasting clear fricatives, or the...