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by tiramisu
Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:17 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 636898

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

<Cev> a b g d
<Cev> abugida
<Legion> yes
<Cev> I never realized that
by tiramisu
Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:50 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2

They come from the same root. I once read that the meaning "cart" originally refers to nomadic caravans, and actually outdates the meaning referring to the Arab people -- the latter having developed as a pejorative term among the more sedentary Arabs to refer to nomads.
by tiramisu
Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:45 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 1

Lesson 2 Vocabulary bass/lâken – but sayyÂrÀ – car 3ArAbiyyè – wagon; cart; toy car mASᵉr – Egypt falasTîn – Palestine TArîq – way; path; road gurfè (j. guruf) – room madrasè (j. madarris) – school ʃâf-iʃûf – see jâb-ijîb – bring qâl-iqûl – say rÂH-irûH – go SÂr-iSîr –become; begin la2 – no 2A/aywA...
by tiramisu
Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:05 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 1

I just added a map to the introductory post that depicts where this dialect is spoken.
by tiramisu
Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:22 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic

SAgîr (ᵉZgîr) – small; young (people) kabîr – big; old (people) Are you sure? Nope. Hence Unfortunately - as per my informal and unstructured knowledge of the dialect - I don't always know when or why it happens, I just have to rely on my own instincts until we get to the book's lessons. Emphasis t...
by tiramisu
Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:18 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 1

Vowels shift a lot in spoken Arabic, and especially in Palestinian Arabic. Unfortunately - as per my informal and unstructured knowledge of the dialect - I don't always know when or why it happens, I just have to rely on my own instincts until we get to the book's lessons. I recall my cousin really ...
by tiramisu
Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:17 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 1

Thanks. 15 had a typo that was fixed. 10 didn't have a typo, but used a colloquial variant of kabîr; I changed it for consistency's sake. I imagine it covered the same topics because you really need to know how to use nouns before you can do anything in Arabic. The fact that Arabic doesn't require a...
by tiramisu
Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:20 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Please review transcripti

Lesson 1 Roots and patterns Everybody’s favorite aspect of Arabic seems to be its triconsonantal root system. Due to extreme ablaut, Semitic languages like Arabic create the illusion that three consonants by themselves carry semantic value. For this course, it will do well for the student to keep t...
by tiramisu
Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:14 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Please review transcripti

c [ʕ] :| Just use numbers man... Superscript <c> is a common transcription, which is why I used non-superscript <c>. If we use numbers, do people mind <3> for [?\] and <2> for [?]? Do you really need to distinguish [D_?\] from [z_?\] too? [/quote] Nope. I think my line of thinking was that since th...
by tiramisu
Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:39 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Please review transcripti

I'd most rather you just write everything in IPA. :\ Also, you wrote [ɤ] where I assume you meant [ɣ]. I would write in IPA would it not be a pain in an ass for me x) But yeah I meant [ɣ]. What's up with Palestinian ayin? When I went on a hike north of Nazareth towards the direction of طرعان and I ...
by tiramisu
Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:50 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic

The following is the transcription method used in this course. I have adapted the method to be more user friendly to those of us who do not enjoy copying and pasting a lot, with the assumption that you have an international keyboard installed. It is arranged in (Roman) alphabetical order, followed b...
by tiramisu
Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:53 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Re: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic

Astraios, weren't you religiously obligated to be wasted around the same time you made that post? #caught #notkosher
by tiramisu
Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:08 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2
Replies: 26
Views: 5605

Lessons in Palestinian Arabic: Now on Lesson 2

سلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته Ayuha ya ikhwati, I had the unfortunate privilege of taking a blow off course in Palestinian Arabic while in Palestine last year. As such, I bought a series of books teaching the dialect, with an audience towards people with no knowledge of Arabic. Needless to say, I n...
by tiramisu
Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:57 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: So what is "I seen?"
Replies: 63
Views: 10654

Re: So what is "I seen?"

Change from above has nothing to do with standard variants. Standard variants might have high prestige because they're standard, but this isn't always the case. As for arguing with Labov, well, I do have strong connections to him that I've been wanting to use for some time now. But I don't want to w...
by tiramisu
Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:11 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: So what is "I seen?"
Replies: 63
Views: 10654

Re: So what is "I seen?"

Luckily for you, The Zomp, I haven't read that book (although I've read excerpts, not to mention my familiarity with the work through popular discussion), so I cannot say what it does or does not say. With that said, I am deeply suspicious of your claim that he claims therein that the upper working ...
by tiramisu
Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:03 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: So what is "I seen?"
Replies: 63
Views: 10654

Re: So what is "I seen?"

Acceptance by the upper class isn't the first step-- it's the last step. You're right, actually. I was following the common misconception that high prestige means the upper classes use the variant. That's simply untrue. But what he found is that the source of change is the upper working class-- and...
by tiramisu
Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:36 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: So what is "I seen?"
Replies: 63
Views: 10654

Re: So what is "I seen?"

Okay I read a little more. For me it's not a marker of a lowly register, it's just a convenience that English has created, since languages are first and foremost a tool for communication and efficiency in communication is of the utmost importance. Just because it's not a marker of a lowly register t...
by tiramisu
Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:25 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: So what is "I seen?"
Replies: 63
Views: 10654

Re: So what is "I seen?"

tl;dr but I read most of the first page. Anyway, here's my input: "I seen" is pretty common here. I'm the only person in my family in the Midwest who doesn't have it. It's no mystery; it's the simple past tense. But I don't see much value in the claim that it'll become standard, and it seems to viol...
by tiramisu
Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:31 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 636898

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

<Legion> you're irrational!!!!

ahahaha
by tiramisu
Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:50 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 636898

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

<Cev> Unlike Eddy
<Cev> I was being stupid
by tiramisu
Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:23 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 636898

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

<WurdBendur> That word is a snake.
<WurdBendur> كما
by tiramisu
Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:58 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 636898

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

*someone links a website to a graphic horse birthing simulator*
Half an hour later...
<Cev> I need to clean the litterbox
<pthag> what a waste
<pthag> you're never going to use the vulva
<Cev> what?
by tiramisu
Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:44 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 636898

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

Xephyr wrote:>:-|

<Cev> But it looks like rubber cement is pretty inequivocally poisonous so
<Cev> not gonna
<Cev> I'm gonna look up if it's safe to eat rubber cement

:|
by tiramisu
Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:56 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 636898

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

<Cev> Well I have little hope of getting through to Pthag <Cev> He is an insane person. <Cev> hang on <Cev> I'm gonna look up if it's safe to eat rubber cement <Zayk> why are you looking up if it's safe to eat rubber cement <Cev> I was going to do a taste test <Cev> Of my fancy belgian chocolate <Ce...