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by kanejam
Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:02 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Oscan Reconstruction
Replies: 66
Views: 32653

Re: Oscan Reconstruction

It's been a while since I've done any work on this and I'm pretty busy at the moment so a decent reply won't be forthcoming any time soon. I can confirm the changes 3.1, 3.4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 (and I think 4.4 as well), 5.1 and 8.1. I know that gʷ -> b as part of the large labiovelar shift (and I'm pret...
by kanejam
Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:51 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meanings
Replies: 313
Views: 108903

Re: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meani

If we're using MMORPG slang, I might add "deeps", "dot", "hot", "rez", "farm", "pot", "wipe", "tank", "pull", "pat", "threat", "nerf", and "buff". There's also the FPS slang terms "gib", "camp", and "frag". And forget not "zerg"! Many of these are used in MOBAs too, and we might also add gank, feed...
by kanejam
Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:41 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Geographical languages
Replies: 6
Views: 2097

Re: Geographical languages

... Basque influence on Old Irish ... Wasn't there a recent thread about the Irish coming from Spain o.O Chinese has been both SVO and has relative clause before the modified noun as far as literary evidence goes, which is a rare combination (IIRC, anyone has actual statistics?). According to WALS ...
by kanejam
Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:46 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

...*gw>b is an incredibly ordinary, to-be-expected shift, not strange in any way. I never said it was, what I'm calling weird is the fact it shifted and none of the other labiovelars did. Although, as CatDoom points out, it's filling a hole. It's not watertight evidence but it's something to think ...
by kanejam
Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:15 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Actually this is fairly controversial, IIRC only Ringe supports this and it's based on only two words for which there are several alternative possible explanations. Ronald Kim endorses it, actually. Do you have any links for the alternative explanations? Not really, I can't seem to find much on it ...
by kanejam
Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

*Tocharian underwent Grassman's Law in its development, at the very least for *dʰ, prior to the changes of *d > PToch *tˢ and *dR > PToch *R. Given that Grassman's Law only operated in branches that had aspirates, it's probable that Tocharian also had aspirates. Actually this is fairly controversia...
by kanejam
Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:33 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

As for Salmoneus's idea: it may be that an early stage had two types of stops: pulmonic *T and ejective *T'. At that stage, there was a constraint against two ejectives in one root. Permissible root types with two stops were three: TVT, TVT', T'VT, while T'VT' was forbidden. Then some (unknown) vow...
by kanejam
Mon May 11, 2015 3:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Personal names between languages
Replies: 206
Views: 32690

Re: Personal names between languages

In Western culture changing the name your parents gave you is a slap in the face of your parents. So, now you don't just speak for Dutch culture, it's Western culture now. Please provide some evidence, that all or most of Western culture considers it this way. Quick! Block your ears! Shift the goal...
by kanejam
Thu May 07, 2015 5:44 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
Replies: 2
Views: 1707

Re: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)

Verbs So here's a more detailed look at the verb system. They inflect for three persons, two numbers and for three moods - indicative, subjunctive and imperative. Each verb has two finite stems, the present and preterite stem. They are sometimes irregular and must simply be memorised(e.g. cèvn -, b...
by kanejam
Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
Replies: 2
Views: 1707

Re: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)

Nouns Savvinic has retained three of Oscan's cases. This is due to the fact that the endings were more stable, and later by Molise Croatian and Arbërisht Albanian, spoken in the same area. They did reduce, however, with plenty of pressure from Neapolitan and Norman. Oscan retains plenty of traces o...
by kanejam
Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:30 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
Replies: 2
Views: 1707

Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)

So, this is the continuation of this thread from a while back. This is also being crossposted from the CBB . Savvinic This is the modern day descendent of the Oscan language, an Italic language from the Osco-Umbrian. It is spoken in the Savvinin region (real-world Molise), but has become marginalise...
by kanejam
Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

The article wrote:[...] includes English, Spanish, French, Greek, Russian and Hindu?
by kanejam
Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:45 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

What would be nice is a massive coherent tome on the subject, rather than needing to rifle through various semi-relevant articles. But I realise how much work that would be so for now I'm happy to read what is available. Here's a go at a reconstruction based very closely on their material (not a lot...
by kanejam
Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:27 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

@Zaarin: You need the labial component so the first one is kinda out how else are you going to account for rounding. The second does not account for pharyngeal/lowering effects, which is why /ʕʷ/ is more likely. Other possibilities that I would speculate on would be /qʷʼ/ /xʷ/ or things like that, ...
by kanejam
Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:41 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Qôni- a triconsonantal language NP: poetry
Replies: 13
Views: 4647

Re: Qôni - a triconsonantal language.

I can't wait for more of this, I've never seen a diachronically justified triconlang before. Looks very cool so far though!
by kanejam
Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:58 am
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: Weird phrases from real languages
Replies: 323
Views: 182569

Re: Weird phrases from real languages

Qwynegold wrote:Hey, you guise! "Eeee ee ee" means "she will eat it" in Manx!!!1!
Whoa that's cool!

Apparently ooonna is Japanese for huge woman.
by kanejam
Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Looking for short texts in various extinct languages
Replies: 9
Views: 2932

Re: Looking for short texts in various extinct languages

Here's some Hittite. Somewhere on the same site there are lessons for it as well as for many other ancient Indo-European languages.

Edit: sorry Fixsme, I only saw your old French link and not the Hittite one.
by kanejam
Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:20 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Conventions for writing dialogues in the languages we know
Replies: 32
Views: 6040

Re: Conventions for writing dialogues in the languages we kn

So are you all deliberately putting the commas outside the quotation marks? My teachers were very insistent that they go inside the quotation marks when I was at school. Even when it makes no sense at all? Are there any other countries that do it that way, apart from the US? I was taught the same, ...
by kanejam
Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:39 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Kümmel touches on this in the paper Tropylium posted . He posits *e *o < **a **ā, (citing evidence such as Brugmann's Law that *o was still slightly longer than *e in PIE) and talks about unaccented *o starting from page 318. His argument is that it was originally stressed and so didn't shorten as h...
by kanejam
Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Thracian and Balto-Slavic were definitely related; Definitely, they're both Indo-European. But if so he should first show that the velars were distinct from palatals. Sorry, I was sort of unclear in my post; as the others have said, the velars were definitely distinct from the palatals: PA kapmi 'h...
by kanejam
Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:50 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 448218

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

So I've just had a look through A Concise Historical Grammar of the Albanian Language - Reconstruction of Proto-Albanian by Vladimir E. Orel (which has made me fall in love with Albanian and want to make it a sister language). Albanian is usually referred to as a satem language as the palatal velars...
by kanejam
Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:26 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Tangut-ish isolating lang: a scratchpad
Replies: 7
Views: 2894

Re: Isolating, zero-marking lang: a grammatical scratchpad

First rule of elision: If the referent pronoun is the first pronoun in the relative clause, then the resumptive particle may be elided. Why not just change this rule to state that the 'if the referent pronoun is the first noun phrase ' which would make more sense and prevent the ambiguity without r...
by kanejam
Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:19 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 841887

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Chemnitz German (same as before but more Dutch looking) Enes taaches hamsj tog noogtwind und te sonne ketsangt, waag von petentein nu tog staagkre is, els e wantrog mit nem wougmen mantel an vogpeekhaam. Tog noogtwind und te sonne wougnsj ijnsj tas tog staagkre von petentein mantel vom wantrog kries...
by kanejam
Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:54 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 841887

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Chemnitz German /p t k kʰ/ <p t k kh> /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /f s ʃ χ h/ <f s sj ch h> /ʋ j ʁ̞ l/ <v j r l> /ʌ ɛ ɞ ɪ ɵ/ <a e o i u> /ɛː ʌː eː ɵː iː ʉː/ <ei aa ee oo ie uu> /aˁː ʌˁː ɔˁː oˁː ʊˁː/ <aag eug oug oog oeg> /ae̯ aɵ̯ ɞʏ̯/ <aai au ui> /ə oˁ/ <e og> ˈeːnəs ˈtʌːχəs hʌmʃ toˁ ˈnoˁːtʋɪnt ɵnt tə ˈsɞnə kə...
by kanejam
Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:06 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Conlang Reconstruction Game 2014: we have a forum
Replies: 97
Views: 38490

Re: Conlang Reconstruction Game 2014: we have a forum

It's still up for me.

Btw I'm going to try to get a sample and maybe even the rest of the shade sh list out this week, but a lexicon will take a little longer.