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- Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:02 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Oscan Reconstruction
- Replies: 66
- Views: 32653
Re: Oscan Reconstruction
It's been a while since I've done any work on this and I'm pretty busy at the moment so a decent reply won't be forthcoming any time soon. I can confirm the changes 3.1, 3.4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 (and I think 4.4 as well), 5.1 and 8.1. I know that gʷ -> b as part of the large labiovelar shift (and I'm pret...
- Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:51 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meanings
- Replies: 313
- Views: 108903
Re: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meani
If we're using MMORPG slang, I might add "deeps", "dot", "hot", "rez", "farm", "pot", "wipe", "tank", "pull", "pat", "threat", "nerf", and "buff". There's also the FPS slang terms "gib", "camp", and "frag". And forget not "zerg"! Many of these are used in MOBAs too, and we might also add gank, feed...
- Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:41 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Geographical languages
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2097
Re: Geographical languages
... Basque influence on Old Irish ... Wasn't there a recent thread about the Irish coming from Spain o.O Chinese has been both SVO and has relative clause before the modified noun as far as literary evidence goes, which is a rare combination (IIRC, anyone has actual statistics?). According to WALS ...
- Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:46 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
...*gw>b is an incredibly ordinary, to-be-expected shift, not strange in any way. I never said it was, what I'm calling weird is the fact it shifted and none of the other labiovelars did. Although, as CatDoom points out, it's filling a hole. It's not watertight evidence but it's something to think ...
- Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:15 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Actually this is fairly controversial, IIRC only Ringe supports this and it's based on only two words for which there are several alternative possible explanations. Ronald Kim endorses it, actually. Do you have any links for the alternative explanations? Not really, I can't seem to find much on it ...
- Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
*Tocharian underwent Grassman's Law in its development, at the very least for *dʰ, prior to the changes of *d > PToch *tˢ and *dR > PToch *R. Given that Grassman's Law only operated in branches that had aspirates, it's probable that Tocharian also had aspirates. Actually this is fairly controversia...
- Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:33 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
As for Salmoneus's idea: it may be that an early stage had two types of stops: pulmonic *T and ejective *T'. At that stage, there was a constraint against two ejectives in one root. Permissible root types with two stops were three: TVT, TVT', T'VT, while T'VT' was forbidden. Then some (unknown) vow...
- Mon May 11, 2015 3:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Personal names between languages
- Replies: 206
- Views: 32690
Re: Personal names between languages
In Western culture changing the name your parents gave you is a slap in the face of your parents. So, now you don't just speak for Dutch culture, it's Western culture now. Please provide some evidence, that all or most of Western culture considers it this way. Quick! Block your ears! Shift the goal...
- Thu May 07, 2015 5:44 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1707
Re: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
Verbs So here's a more detailed look at the verb system. They inflect for three persons, two numbers and for three moods - indicative, subjunctive and imperative. Each verb has two finite stems, the present and preterite stem. They are sometimes irregular and must simply be memorised(e.g. cèvn -, b...
- Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:23 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1707
Re: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
Nouns Savvinic has retained three of Oscan's cases. This is due to the fact that the endings were more stable, and later by Molise Croatian and Arbërisht Albanian, spoken in the same area. They did reduce, however, with plenty of pressure from Neapolitan and Norman. Oscan retains plenty of traces o...
- Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:30 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1707
Savvinic (Modern Day Oscan)
So, this is the continuation of this thread from a while back. This is also being crossposted from the CBB . Savvinic This is the modern day descendent of the Oscan language, an Italic language from the Osco-Umbrian. It is spoken in the Savvinin region (real-world Molise), but has become marginalise...
- Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:07 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
masako wrote:Another interesting article.
The article wrote:[...] includes English, Spanish, French, Greek, Russian and Hindu?
- Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:45 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
What would be nice is a massive coherent tome on the subject, rather than needing to rifle through various semi-relevant articles. But I realise how much work that would be so for now I'm happy to read what is available. Here's a go at a reconstruction based very closely on their material (not a lot...
- Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:27 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
@Zaarin: You need the labial component so the first one is kinda out how else are you going to account for rounding. The second does not account for pharyngeal/lowering effects, which is why /ʕʷ/ is more likely. Other possibilities that I would speculate on would be /qʷʼ/ /xʷ/ or things like that, ...
- Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:41 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Qôni- a triconsonantal language NP: poetry
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4647
Re: Qôni - a triconsonantal language.
I can't wait for more of this, I've never seen a diachronically justified triconlang before. Looks very cool so far though!
- Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:58 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Weird phrases from real languages
- Replies: 323
- Views: 182569
Re: Weird phrases from real languages
Whoa that's cool!Qwynegold wrote:Hey, you guise! "Eeee ee ee" means "she will eat it" in Manx!!!1!
Apparently ooonna is Japanese for huge woman.
- Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Looking for short texts in various extinct languages
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2932
Re: Looking for short texts in various extinct languages
Here's some Hittite. Somewhere on the same site there are lessons for it as well as for many other ancient Indo-European languages.
Edit: sorry Fixsme, I only saw your old French link and not the Hittite one.
Edit: sorry Fixsme, I only saw your old French link and not the Hittite one.
- Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:20 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Conventions for writing dialogues in the languages we know
- Replies: 32
- Views: 6040
Re: Conventions for writing dialogues in the languages we kn
So are you all deliberately putting the commas outside the quotation marks? My teachers were very insistent that they go inside the quotation marks when I was at school. Even when it makes no sense at all? Are there any other countries that do it that way, apart from the US? I was taught the same, ...
- Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:39 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Kümmel touches on this in the paper Tropylium posted . He posits *e *o < **a **ā, (citing evidence such as Brugmann's Law that *o was still slightly longer than *e in PIE) and talks about unaccented *o starting from page 318. His argument is that it was originally stressed and so didn't shorten as h...
- Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:20 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Thracian and Balto-Slavic were definitely related; Definitely, they're both Indo-European. But if so he should first show that the velars were distinct from palatals. Sorry, I was sort of unclear in my post; as the others have said, the velars were definitely distinct from the palatals: PA kapmi 'h...
- Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:50 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 448218
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
So I've just had a look through A Concise Historical Grammar of the Albanian Language - Reconstruction of Proto-Albanian by Vladimir E. Orel (which has made me fall in love with Albanian and want to make it a sister language). Albanian is usually referred to as a satem language as the palatal velars...
- Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:26 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Tangut-ish isolating lang: a scratchpad
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2894
Re: Isolating, zero-marking lang: a grammatical scratchpad
First rule of elision: If the referent pronoun is the first pronoun in the relative clause, then the resumptive particle may be elided. Why not just change this rule to state that the 'if the referent pronoun is the first noun phrase ' which would make more sense and prevent the ambiguity without r...
- Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:19 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Romanization challenge thread
- Replies: 3842
- Views: 841887
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Chemnitz German (same as before but more Dutch looking) Enes taaches hamsj tog noogtwind und te sonne ketsangt, waag von petentein nu tog staagkre is, els e wantrog mit nem wougmen mantel an vogpeekhaam. Tog noogtwind und te sonne wougnsj ijnsj tas tog staagkre von petentein mantel vom wantrog kries...
- Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:54 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Romanization challenge thread
- Replies: 3842
- Views: 841887
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Chemnitz German /p t k kʰ/ <p t k kh> /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /f s ʃ χ h/ <f s sj ch h> /ʋ j ʁ̞ l/ <v j r l> /ʌ ɛ ɞ ɪ ɵ/ <a e o i u> /ɛː ʌː eː ɵː iː ʉː/ <ei aa ee oo ie uu> /aˁː ʌˁː ɔˁː oˁː ʊˁː/ <aag eug oug oog oeg> /ae̯ aɵ̯ ɞʏ̯/ <aai au ui> /ə oˁ/ <e og> ˈeːnəs ˈtʌːχəs hʌmʃ toˁ ˈnoˁːtʋɪnt ɵnt tə ˈsɞnə kə...
- Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:06 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Conlang Reconstruction Game 2014: we have a forum
- Replies: 97
- Views: 38490
Re: Conlang Reconstruction Game 2014: we have a forum
It's still up for me.
Btw I'm going to try to get a sample and maybe even the rest of the shade sh list out this week, but a lexicon will take a little longer.
Btw I'm going to try to get a sample and maybe even the rest of the shade sh list out this week, but a lexicon will take a little longer.