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A Linguistic Analysis and Learner’s Reference for Georgian Verbs (by Olga Gurevich) is pages 8 thru 14 of this pdf.
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Well, it isn't turning up in the search engine, so I'll just go ahead and add it. A bizarre Hungarian grammar by some guy who thought he was a poet: http://www.archive.org/details/simplifi ... 00singrich
I dunno if this was the normal style of writing in 1853, but this is the first grammar I've seen which the author seems to have genuinely taken immense pleasure in writing. Anyway, here's the Georgian grammar in Wikipedia's External Links section: http://www.seelrc.org:8080/grammar/pdf/ ... orgian.pdf
PS. And a 133-page sketch of Ossetic, Ossetian or Iron, an Iranian language with many Caucasian features: http://www.azargoshnasp.net/languages/o ... setian.htm
PPS. BTW although the best Old Irish grammar on the net that I know of is listed here already, archive.org contains a whole bunch of Irish grammars, both Old and Modern: http://www.google.co.in/search?q=irish+ ... rchive.org Imagine what happens when "irish" is dropped from the search string. My first 4 results were Welsh, Hindi, Syriac and Egyptian.
I dunno if this was the normal style of writing in 1853, but this is the first grammar I've seen which the author seems to have genuinely taken immense pleasure in writing. Anyway, here's the Georgian grammar in Wikipedia's External Links section: http://www.seelrc.org:8080/grammar/pdf/ ... orgian.pdf
PS. And a 133-page sketch of Ossetic, Ossetian or Iron, an Iranian language with many Caucasian features: http://www.azargoshnasp.net/languages/o ... setian.htm
PPS. BTW although the best Old Irish grammar on the net that I know of is listed here already, archive.org contains a whole bunch of Irish grammars, both Old and Modern: http://www.google.co.in/search?q=irish+ ... rchive.org Imagine what happens when "irish" is dropped from the search string. My first 4 results were Welsh, Hindi, Syriac and Egyptian.
If you hold a cat by the tail you learn things you cannot learn any other way. - Mark Twain
In reality, our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, which indeed is a divine gift. - Socrates
In reality, our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, which indeed is a divine gift. - Socrates
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[ur=http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/dissert ... n_2008.pdf]Choguita Rarámuri (Tarahumara) Phonology and Morphology[/url]
Yay for underdescribed Uto-Aztecan languages! Though I haven't looked at it in detail, this language seems to have some really interesting stuff going on in it's verbal morphology.
Yay for underdescribed Uto-Aztecan languages! Though I haven't looked at it in detail, this language seems to have some really interesting stuff going on in it's verbal morphology.
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roninbodhisattva meant to wrote:Choguita Rarámuri (Tarahumara) Phonology and Morphology
Yay for underdescribed Uto-Aztecan languages! Though I haven't looked at it in detail, this language seems to have some really interesting stuff going on in it's verbal morphology.
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For us non-linguists, a free online grammar, dictionary and text collection of a far less exotic American language, Yucatec Maya: http://www.famsi.org/reports/96072/index.html
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In reality, our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, which indeed is a divine gift. - Socrates
In reality, our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, which indeed is a divine gift. - Socrates
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Thanks.TomHChappell wrote:roninbodhisattva meant to wrote:Choguita Rarámuri (Tarahumara) Phonology and Morphology
Yay for underdescribed Uto-Aztecan languages! Though I haven't looked at it in detail, this language seems to have some really interesting stuff going on in it's verbal morphology.
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I think that should be added to the Resources thread.Vardelm wrote: .... I've looked at Verb Aspect on The Artificial Language Lab, ....
Verb Aspect on The Artificial Language Lab aka http://www.rickharrison.com/language/aspect.html.
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Frisian-y Goodness!
The Phonology and Grammar of Modern West Frisian, with Phonetic Texts and Glossary
A Grammar of the Old Friesic Language
The Frisian Language and Literature - A Historical Study
The Phonology and Grammar of Modern West Frisian, with Phonetic Texts and Glossary
A Grammar of the Old Friesic Language
The Frisian Language and Literature - A Historical Study
I am Ratatosk, Norse Squirrel of Strife!
There are 10 types of people in this world:
-Those who understand binary
-Those who don't
Mater tua circeta ibat et pater tuus sambucorum olficiebat!
There are 10 types of people in this world:
-Those who understand binary
-Those who don't
Mater tua circeta ibat et pater tuus sambucorum olficiebat!
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A 111-page grammatical report on Santali, the largest East Indian Munda language with over 6 million speakers: http://wesanthals.tripod.com/id54.html
Annoyingly, all the Santali text is given in the Ol Chiki alphabet: http://wesanthals.tripod.com/id45.html
The report claims that "the form of a verb structure in Santali depends on how much the subject is involved in performing the action represented by the verb," but I haven't gone through the document properly, so I'm not sure whether the grammar presents any particularly interesting features. Wikipedia says: "Characteristics of the Munda languages include three grammatical numbers (singular, dual, and plural), two genders (animate and inanimate), a distinction between inclusive and exclusive first person plural pronouns, and the use of either suffixes or auxiliaries to indicate tense."
PS. These people live in a forest near my mother's village. Their kids do very badly in the village patshala since they have a lot of trouble picking up Bengali. I've seen the Shao~tals hunting squirrels and doing the peacock dance. Come to think of it, I wonder where they get all those peacock feathers from. I've never seen a live peacock in or around the village. As a matter of fact, I've never seen one outside the zoo.
Annoyingly, all the Santali text is given in the Ol Chiki alphabet: http://wesanthals.tripod.com/id45.html
The report claims that "the form of a verb structure in Santali depends on how much the subject is involved in performing the action represented by the verb," but I haven't gone through the document properly, so I'm not sure whether the grammar presents any particularly interesting features. Wikipedia says: "Characteristics of the Munda languages include three grammatical numbers (singular, dual, and plural), two genders (animate and inanimate), a distinction between inclusive and exclusive first person plural pronouns, and the use of either suffixes or auxiliaries to indicate tense."
PS. These people live in a forest near my mother's village. Their kids do very badly in the village patshala since they have a lot of trouble picking up Bengali. I've seen the Shao~tals hunting squirrels and doing the peacock dance. Come to think of it, I wonder where they get all those peacock feathers from. I've never seen a live peacock in or around the village. As a matter of fact, I've never seen one outside the zoo.
If you hold a cat by the tail you learn things you cannot learn any other way. - Mark Twain
In reality, our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, which indeed is a divine gift. - Socrates
In reality, our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, which indeed is a divine gift. - Socrates
From Doctrellor: Modern Indo-European. I hope it's close enough to the best reconstruction to be of use.
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I don't think it's trustworthy. This is "Modern Indo-European", an auxlang based on what is known about Proto-Indo-European; while I haven't checked all the details, there is probably lots of stuff in it that is speculatively filled in and has little or no supporting evidence from real Indo-European languages - after all, there are still gaps in our knowledge of PIE which need to be closed to make it into a language actually useful for international communication in the modern world.Daquarious P. McFizzle wrote:From Doctrellor: Modern Indo-European. I hope it's close enough to the best reconstruction to be of use.
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Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
Then is there a PDF with the complete grammar of what we do know?WeepingElf wrote:I don't think it's trustworthy. This is "Modern Indo-European", an auxlang based on what is known about Proto-Indo-European; while I haven't checked all the details, there is probably lots of stuff in it that is speculatively filled in and has little or no supporting evidence from real Indo-European languages - after all, there are still gaps in our knowledge of PIE which need to be closed to make it into a language actually useful for international communication in the modern world.Daquarious P. McFizzle wrote:From Doctrellor: Modern Indo-European. I hope it's close enough to the best reconstruction to be of use.
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I don't know any. There are several good handbooks (though not downloadable as PDF), but the field still lacks an up-to-date etymological dictionary. The Grammar of Modern Indo-European, though far from authoritative regarding PIE, is thus indeed useful for Indo-European conlangers - but not recommendable for actual historical linguistics studies.Daquarious P. McFizzle wrote:Then is there a PDF with the complete grammar of what we do know?WeepingElf wrote:I don't think it's trustworthy. This is "Modern Indo-European", an auxlang based on what is known about Proto-Indo-European; while I haven't checked all the details, there is probably lots of stuff in it that is speculatively filled in and has little or no supporting evidence from real Indo-European languages - after all, there are still gaps in our knowledge of PIE which need to be closed to make it into a language actually useful for international communication in the modern world.Daquarious P. McFizzle wrote:From Doctrellor: Modern Indo-European. I hope it's close enough to the best reconstruction to be of use.
...brought to you by the Weeping Elf
Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
Tha cvastam émi cvastam santham amal phelsa. -- Friedrich Schiller
ESTAR-3SG:P human-OBJ only human-OBJ true-OBJ REL-LOC play-3SG:A
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http://home.nvg.org/~taliesin/conlang/diphthongs.html
"An illustrated note on diphthongs" by Taliesin.
"An illustrated note on diphthongs" by Taliesin.
I'm looking for two things:
1. A good descriptions of the obsolete jamo. There are some mentioned in WP, but for some of them they don't say how they are (or were) pronunced (ᄛ, ㅥ, ᄙ, ᆜ, ᆝ, ᆢ, ᅇ, ᇮ,* ᅶ, ᅷ, ᅸ, ᅹ, ᅺ, ᅻ, ᅼ, ᅽ, ᅾ, ᅿ, ᆀ, ᆁ, ᆂ, ᆃ, ㆇ, ㆈ, ᆆ, ᆇ, ㆉ, ᆉ, ᆊ, ᆋ, ᆌ, ᆍ, ᆎ, ᆏ, ᆐ, ㆊ, ㆋ, ᆓ, ㆌ, ᆕ, ᆖ, ᆗ, ᆘ, ᆙ, ᆚ, ᆛ, ᆟ, ᆠ, ㆎ) while for others the description is a bit wague (ㆍ, ㅱ, ㅸ, ᄼ, ᄾ, ㅿ, ㆁ, ᅎ, ᅐ, ᅔ, ᅕ, ㆄ, ㅹ, ᄽ, ᄿ, ᅏ, ᅑ, ㆅ).
*Don't know if there's supposed to be any difference between these two ᅇ or if they've just mistakenly written the same jamo twice.
Also, are there any other obsolete ones not mentioned in Wikipedia? And I'm wondering about the long vowels. I think I read somewhere that they aren't distinguished from short vowels in Han'gul, is that true?
2. A description of phonotactics in Nuxalk. More precisely, I wan't to know if /i/ can follow /j/, if /u/ can follow /w/ and if palatalized consonants can precede /j/ or /w/. Also, are long vowels phonemic or not?
1. A good descriptions of the obsolete jamo. There are some mentioned in WP, but for some of them they don't say how they are (or were) pronunced (ᄛ, ㅥ, ᄙ, ᆜ, ᆝ, ᆢ, ᅇ, ᇮ,* ᅶ, ᅷ, ᅸ, ᅹ, ᅺ, ᅻ, ᅼ, ᅽ, ᅾ, ᅿ, ᆀ, ᆁ, ᆂ, ᆃ, ㆇ, ㆈ, ᆆ, ᆇ, ㆉ, ᆉ, ᆊ, ᆋ, ᆌ, ᆍ, ᆎ, ᆏ, ᆐ, ㆊ, ㆋ, ᆓ, ㆌ, ᆕ, ᆖ, ᆗ, ᆘ, ᆙ, ᆚ, ᆛ, ᆟ, ᆠ, ㆎ) while for others the description is a bit wague (ㆍ, ㅱ, ㅸ, ᄼ, ᄾ, ㅿ, ㆁ, ᅎ, ᅐ, ᅔ, ᅕ, ㆄ, ㅹ, ᄽ, ᄿ, ᅏ, ᅑ, ㆅ).
*Don't know if there's supposed to be any difference between these two ᅇ or if they've just mistakenly written the same jamo twice.
Also, are there any other obsolete ones not mentioned in Wikipedia? And I'm wondering about the long vowels. I think I read somewhere that they aren't distinguished from short vowels in Han'gul, is that true?
2. A description of phonotactics in Nuxalk. More precisely, I wan't to know if /i/ can follow /j/, if /u/ can follow /w/ and if palatalized consonants can precede /j/ or /w/. Also, are long vowels phonemic or not?
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http://www.eva.mpg.de/lingua/tools-at-l ... etches.pdf
roninbodhisattva wrote:This is a pretty good outline of how to design a grammar sketch.
It's not great, but after playing around with it a bit I found it can certainly be helpful.At the Scriptorium, brank wrote:Bingo! Use the Alphabet Synthesis Machine!
It will generate randomized/evolved glyphs based on your input.
p_>-ts_>k_>-k_>k_>-pSSSSS
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Part a: I'm almost certain /i/ can follow /j/ and /u/ /w/. Part b: What palatalized consonants? Are you talking about the post-alveolar affricates?Qwynegold wrote: 2. A description of phonotactics in Nuxalk. More precisely, I wan't to know if /i/ can follow /j/, if /u/ can follow /w/ and if palatalized consonants can precede /j/ or /w/. Also, are long vowels phonemic or not?
Ah, thanks!roninbodhisattva wrote:Part a: I'm almost certain /i/ can follow /j/ and /u/ /w/.Qwynegold wrote: 2. A description of phonotactics in Nuxalk. More precisely, I wan't to know if /i/ can follow /j/, if /u/ can follow /w/ and if palatalized consonants can precede /j/ or /w/. Also, are long vowels phonemic or not?
Oh yeah, the palatalization wasn't really contrastive. I was talking about kʲʰ, kʼʲ and xʲ.roninbodhisattva wrote:Part b: What palatalized consonants? Are you talking about the post-alveolar affricates?
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I want to put this in the Resources thread. I hope that's not a bad idea?On the '[url=http://www.spinnoff.com/zbb/viewtopic.php?t=33617]two different ands[/url]' thread, Nae wrote:I have been working on a chapter for my thesis seminarium about this exact topic HERE IT IS
http://pastebin.com/f48bf72d4
Here's a solar system simulator, though I don't know how useful it will be for conworlders. You can have at most four bodies in it for example. But it's fun to play with.