As an example of some of that "extra information":guitarplayer wrote:Your con/natlang's kinterms most obviously . Like, what's the word for dad, mom, brother, uncle, aunt etc. Plus some extra information about how other langs handle this.vegfarandi wrote: I don't quite understand what is being asked about here...
I forgot to mention, about the "Hawaiian system".---leonsherlock wrote: Thank you very much for showing me how the hawaiian system works. It's really fascinating!
Since not only your father's brother, but also your mother's brother, is your "father"; and not only your mother's sister, but also your father's sister, is your "mother":
Your father's son, your mother's son, your father's brother's son, your mother's sister's son, your father's sister's son, and your mother's brother's son, are all your "brother"; and your father's daughter, your mother's daughter, your father's brother's daughter, your mother's sister's daughter, your father's sister's daughter, and your mother's brother's daughter, are all your "sister".
The same applies to each of your parents, of course. That is, your father's father's son, your father's mother's son, your father's father's brother's son, your father's mother's sister's son, your father's father's sister's son, and your father's mother's brother's son, are all your father's "brother", and hence are all your "father". Therefore, the son of any of them is your "brother".
The "Sudanese" system, on the other hand, differentiates carefully.
Father, mother, father's father, father's mother, mother's father, and mother's mother are six separate terms. Father, mother, father's brother, father's sister, mother's brother, and mother's sister are six separate terms. Brother, sister, husband, wife, brother's wife, sister's husband, husband's brother, husband's sister, wife's brother, and wife's sister are ten separate terms. Son, daughter, brother's son, brother's daughter, sister's son, and sister's daughter are six separate terms. Son, daughter, son's wife, and daughter's husband are four separate terms. Son, daughter, son's son, son's daughter, daughter's son, and daughter's daughter, are six separate terms.
In the Sudanese system, as in the ancient German system, one's tertiary-or-more-distant relatives are classified according to which of one's grandparents they are most closely related to.
Some people sometimes call some kinship systrems "classificatory". This is actually a somewhat "Eurocentric" term. From the point of view of most kinship systems, most other kinship systems are to some degree "classificatory".
As a general guideline (but there are plenty of exceptions, some of which are rather "radical"), the peoples who now have advanced technology and heavy industry and global military and economic "clout" have kinship systems which express fewish distinctions (relative to the other peoples') but express them rather thoroughly and systematically (relative to the other peoples'); whereas the peoples who until recently have been "poor" or "uneducated" or not in close contact with much of the rest of the world, have kinship systems which express manyish distinctions (relative to other peoples') but do not express most of them as thoroughly and systematically as those of "advanced" peoples.
One kind of "classificatory" kinship system forms the basis of the "prescriptive marriage systems". That is, having this kind of kinship system does not require that the people have a prescriptive marriage system, but having a prescriptive marriage system does require that the people have this kind of kinship system.
This is the kind in which a Father's Brother is a Father and a Mother's Sister is a Mother (without regard to which is older).
In such a system, your "parallel cousin" (your Father's Brother's or your Mother's Sister's child) is your sibling, but your "cross cousin" (your Father's Sister's child or your Mother's Brother's child) is _not_ your sibling.
The system may or may not distinguish between the two kinds of cross-cousin.
It also may or may not distinguish between a Wife's Brother and a Sister's Husband; or between a Husband's Sister and a Brother's Wife.
But it won't distinguish between a Father's Wife and a Mother, nor between a Mother's Husband and a Father. And, it won't distinguish between a full-brother and a half-brother and a step-brother; these will all just be "Brother".
Why am I discussing that system without providing the vocabulary for it? Because I expect to make Adpihi have such a system, but I haven't gotten around to generating any of the vocabulary yet. (Well, I do have a word, but I haven't decided what it means yet.)
Tom H.C. in MI