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Gevey family terms - the most widely used are shown in bold italics. Gevey society seems to view families as "moveable feasts" - you don't need to be correctly related to be called moeme or zgatise. In fact younger children routinely call everyone "uncle", "aunt", "cousin" and "kid" (basate), something that gets replaced in adulthood with an over-reliance on the "extended family" terms, even for blood relations.

Immediate family:
bizhvete (bizhvet) grandfather
moemete (moemet) grandmother
nonhete (nonhet) grandparent
bizhve (bizhev) father, dad
moeme (moem) mother
nonhe (nong) parent
buukrhe (buukehrh) husband, partner
tothpe (tothap) wife, partner
voene (voent) spouse
huspe (husep) brother
lozde (lozad) sister
husplozde (husplozad) sibling
vlefre (vlefehr) son
joose (joosk) daughter

Wider family:
rhaajise (rhaajisk) cousin (male)
rhaajafe (rhaajaf) cousin (female)
rhaaje (rhaaj) cousin (both sexes)
zgatise (zgatisk) uncle
zgatafe (zgataf) aunt
zgate (zgat) uncle, aunt
karise (karisk) nephew
karafe (karaf) niece
kare (kar) nephew, niece

loifuhrhe (loifuhrh) very old person (both sexes)
zwibecye ubulhizhe (ye ubulhizhe zwibeceey) teenager (both sexes)
dhoire (dhoir) child, infant (both sexes)

"Extended" family
cuklame (cuklam) anyone older than self (both sexes)
shlumfoeddhe (shlumfoedadh) anyone roughly the same age (both sexes)
basate (basat) anyone younger than self (both sexes)
dhofte wanhizhe (ye wanhizhe dhoft) best friend (both sexes)
ohsle (ohsal) friend (both sexes)
shlumzdeje (shlumzdej) lover - does not need to be literal (both sexes)

loife (loif) man
moemuhrhe (moemuhrh) tribe mother, group mother
gyane (gyan) woman
moemaelhe (moemael) bride, maiden
rapte (rapt) boy
vuefne (vuefant) girl


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Nuntar: unfortunately, it's hard to integrate into writing for an English audience. Terms like 'father/uncle', 'cross-cousin' and 'mother/aunt/cross-cousin-on-the-uterine-side' are hard to make make sense to normal people, I think. Family is one of the things people really struggle to see alternatives in.



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My data is from reading various net things about cultural anthropology concepts. In particular, I would recommend and


Eskimo is usually found where there are strong nuclear families. The two times this normally occurs are a) modern post-industrial liberal society, and b) hunter-gatherers in harsh conditions with a lack of resources. If you think about it, when Eskimo children grow up and get their own families, they need to get their own igloo. The nuclear families look after each other, while being supported by neighbours on both sides of the family.
Whereas small islands tend toward ambilineal systems that produce Hawai'ian naming, and stratified cultures with complex social responsibilities tend to Sudanese. Iroquios, Omaha and Crow go with strong unilineal descent - Omaha with very strong agnatic, Crow with strong uterine, and Iroquois with either.

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