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I think the problem here is that when you start talking about words like [p] or [sxs], the concept of a syllable pretty much becomes useless. So the only way to answer the question without attacking its premises is to talk about syllabic consonants such as nasals and approximants, which (as has now been pointed out many times) are supposed to be excluded from the discussion.

Such words can certainly exist, but you may find that asking where the syllable nucleus is is like asking what colour the King of France's hair is.

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In informal spoken English, at least around here, it's very common to reduce the preposition "to" into [tʰ] before consonants and [tʰɰ] before vowels.


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Likewise, It's very common to reduce "it's/its", "that's", and sometimes "what's" to [ts], at least in my dialect.


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Serbo-Croatian "s" ("with") is vowelless.


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