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I do like how /tɕ/ is written as /tge/, and I don't believe this is too English-y.

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I do like the look of this. I've noticed that many, many conlangs have a 1-to-1 correspondence between their orthographies and their phonemic inventories, so in my own I've attempted to provide a fair amount of depth to the writing system (and a bit in the transcription). Not quite as much as this, though! Definitely looking forward to what you'll post next.

tbh, it rather goes without saying that not enough conlangs have anything in their phonologies beyond phoneme inventories, as that's been pointed out here by many people.

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I like it. My orthography is 1:1, but there are a bunch of accents that aren't too far removed from the original but have still lost the 1:1 in some areas. But at the same time, it's just a convenient way for me to write it without putting a whole lot of thought into it, and I can always come back to it later, and I certainly plan to do so when/if I invent a native script for it. Because that'll likely come from somewhere else and not have enough sounds.


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That is pretty awesome.

Is it always so regular, though? I generally wouldn't expect a writing system to remain a) unambiguous (possible to predict the articulation from writing) and b) predictable (possible to predict the spelling from speech). Have there been standardizations of the writing system to keep it so uniform? Are there words that, when spelled according to the standard, are not so uniform? Relatedly, what sort of misspellings or spelling variations are common, if any?

Ninja edit: I admit to not checking the chart thoroughly for these things, but I didn't see anything apparent. Apologies for the stupid questions if there are.

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This is so awesome! I love unintuitive orthographies (<stc> /ɕ/ is fantastic), especially ones with irregularities. Not enough conlangers make cool spelling systems.

Do you think you'll have a lot of unpredictable pronunciations, or just have them for the most common words?


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I love it! I should do that someday. :)

Just curious, how did you make the lovely vowel and consonant charts in the original post?

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I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, but what is a "front consonant?" Do you mean a palatized consonant?

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Here's a typo: andle rathe [@n'dra:D] instead of andle rathe [ən'draːð]

Looks good, would love to see this in some examples.

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