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Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:22 pm
by Ossicone
HERE is the current revision of the Inyauk grammar.

Some of the information below may be outdated now, but I will keep it here for consistency.
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Hello everyone!

This is my first conlang - Inyauk /'iɲa͡uk/. I have been working on it for over a year now.
I'm not sure if I have any direct goals for Inyauk. I feel it's pretty well rounded now, but I could be very biased. However, any questions, comments or criticisms are appreciated.

Inyauk Grammar:
HERE is the link to the written grammar. It's longish and should have something to interest everyone. I recommend downloading the file so the font doesn't look fucked.

Things that I know are missing:
Relative clauses
Better descriptions for a lot of affixes.

Sample Text:
Yarbáhuat rúnbakuuwair inárkulitsuuniuhan ir nahi-írnaknaximuaya rúnyalana inárkulnainkilax. Nínalasaanaakikiya xúnana ikúnaratxaya nu-ágautbanarkul. Nahí-inanatsinaraahi maránxarana. Nír físana yarxánigat músuuninat, kilmúsuunim i-úlutaf kilmúsuunim isányaaf.I-ínyakim ir rúnyalak kúnaratx ní-aya ah áfaunana inísimax, Mínitiisla Káraimuna Pílatituna Íkirak. Tásur sidiralak itsínaraaya ah ním bírisinaafaaralak ir txím xinu-ápatiirana ágautikat ah. Ip txím mírsualak imúsuuninahi. Pítakax nu-ínyaukim álatabana ní-aya lá-usuunahi wa lásaantunahi. Kínyukusi ním kúnaratxalam iʦínaraaja la apalak inísinikat.

It is not news to many of the Imperial City's inhabitants, that a strange device has been seen all over the city.
Yarbáhuat rúnbakuuwair inárkulitsuuniuxan ir nahi-írnaknaximuaya rúnyalana inárkulnainkilax ah.

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jar-báxu-at  rún-ba-kú<u>wa-ir           i-nárkuliʦuuni-uxan  ir
NO-news-PSD  many-PSS-inhabitant<pl>-PSR DEF-city.gods-ORG    <RC

nax-fírnak-na-ʃímsu-aja     rúɲ-al-ana   i-nárkul-na-ínkil-aʃ   ax
IDF-device-ADJ-strange-OBJ  see-PST-CNT  DEF-city-ADJ-whole-IN  RC>
It is both quick and nimble, carrying it's rider to all corners of the city.
Nínalasaanaakikiya xúnana ikúnaratxaya nu-ágautbanarkul.

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ní-na-lasaan-na-kikija        ʃún-ana    i-kúnaraʧ-aja
3sg-ADJ-quick-ADJ-nimble-AGT  carry-CNT  DEF-ride-OBJ

nu-ága<u>t-ba-narkul
ALL-part<pl>-PSS-city
It can only be described as a kind of mechanical horse.
Nahí-inanatsinaraahi maránxarana.

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nax-íina-na-ʦinara-axi     mar-ánʃar-ana
IDF-horse-ADJ-machine-RST  ABL-decribe-CNT
Instead of legs it has two wheels, one on the front and on the back.
Nír físana jarxánigat músuuninat, kilmúsuunim i-úlutaf kilmúsuunim isányaaf.

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ní-ir    físana    jar-xá<ni>g-at  músuu<ni>n-at
3sg-PSR  have-CNT  NO-leg<dl>-PSD  wheel<dl>-PSD,

kil-músuun-im  i-úlut-af    kil-músuun-im  i-sáɲa-af
one-wheel-AGT  DEF-head-ON  one-wheel-AGT  DEF-tail-ON
The person seen riding it is an attendee of the Academy, Mínitiisla Káraimuna Pílatituna Íkirak.
I-ínyakim ir rúnyalak kúnaratx ní-aya ax áfaunana inísimax, Mínitiisla Káraimuna Pílatituna Íkirak.

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i-íɲak-im       ir   rúɲ-al-ak    kúnaraʧ  ní-aja   ax   áfaun-ana
DEF-person-AGT  <RC  see-PST-END  ride     3sg-OBJ  RC>  study-CNT

i-nísim-aʃ      Mínitiisla  Káraimuna   Pílatituna   Íkirak.
DEF-academy-IN, Mínitiisla  Kára-imuna  Pílat-ituna  Íkir-ak.
When asked about the device, he simply said “I wanted to go places faster.
Tásur sidiralak itsínaraaya ax ním bírisinaafaaralak ir txím xinu-ápatiirana ágautikat ah.

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tásur  sídir-al-ak  i-ʦínara-aja     ax   ní-im
<when  ask-PST-END  DEF-machine-OBJ  RC>  3sg-AGT

bírisi-na-afaar-al-ak   ir  ʧí-im    ʃinu-ápat-pir-ana   ága<u>t-ikat
say-ADJ-simple-PST-END  <RC 1sg-AGT  WNT-go-RPD-CNT      part<pl>-DST
So I invented the 'two-wheel.'
Ip txím mírsualak imúsuuninahi.

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ip  ʧí-im    mírsu-al-ak     i-músuu<ni>n-axi
so  1sg-AGT  invent-PST-END  DEF-wheel<dl>-RST
One day everyone will use it to go farther and faster.
Pítakax nu-ínyaukim álatabana ní-aja lá-usuunahi la lásaantunahi.

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pítak-aʃ   nu-íɲa<u>k-im       álaʧ-ab-ana  ní-aja  
future-IN  ALL-person<pl>-AGT  use-FUT-CNT  3sg-OBJ

láus-tun-axi  la   lásaan-tun-axi
far-CMP-RST   and  faster-CMP-RST
After that he jumped back onto the device and sped off toward the Academy center.
Kínyukusi ním kúnaratxalam iʦínaraaja la apalak inísinikat.

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kíɲuk-usi   ní-im    kúnaraʧ-al-am  i-ʦínara-aja     la
moment-AFT  3sg-AGT  ride-PST-SRT   DEF-machine-OBJ  and

ap-al-ak    i-nísim-ikat
go-PST-END  DEF-academy-DST
Map of Inyauk Territory: There are 5 regions -- Ántsar, Tsínir, Pínyar, Átxakar and Úrukar. The other areas are: iwásan (the plains), i-úsanuug (the mountains), ifálumtsulasi (the dark forest) and isálak (the ocean). You can also see the Inyauk script.

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I hope all of that made some kind of sense. :roll:

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:50 pm
by finlay
looks cool; your map has a good clean style to it.

seeing as your vowel letters are all to the right of the line, why don't you just combine them with the consonant letters and have them as a kind of diacritic? (like Arabic, Devanagari, etc) It'd save space, for one, but also it's exceedingly rare to have a 1-1 correspondance between different scripts, and alphabets are rather a minority among the world's languages... Looks like Mongolian, anyway, not bad.

As for the document, there's nothing incredibly unusual about most of the language stuff, but I'm not very good at sifting through it. Your final page with the notes on the culture does sound a bit idealised, though, especially with regards to gender and stuff...

also phonology nitpick: [wi] and [u̯i] aren't as distinct phonetically as you seem to think, and personally i'd still maybe call [wi] and [ja] diphthongs, although maybe rising rather than falling or whatever the terminology is. but whatever, really, this is basically up to you, and your way does work.

also also pickles and tea
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Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:56 pm
by rickardspaghetti
Hejsan, Ossicone. Det verkar som du äntligen har bestämt dig för att gå med i ZBB. Ceresz blir nog överlycklig.

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:39 pm
by Ossicone
finlay wrote:looks cool; your map has a good clean style to it.

seeing as your vowel letters are all to the right of the line, why don't you just combine them with the consonant letters and have them as a kind of diacritic? (like Arabic, Devanagari, etc) It'd save space, for one, but also it's exceedingly rare to have a 1-1 correspondance between different scripts, and alphabets are rather a minority among the world's languages... Looks like Mongolian, anyway, not bad.
Thanks.

Heh, I thought about that but I guess I like it the way it is with the vowels separate.
As for the document, there's nothing incredibly unusual about most of the language stuff, but I'm not very good at sifting through it. Your final page with the notes on the culture does sound a bit idealised, though, especially with regards to gender and stuff...

also phonology nitpick: [wi] and [u̯i] aren't as distinct phonetically as you seem to think, and personally i'd still maybe call [wi] and [ja] diphthongs, although maybe rising rather than falling or whatever the terminology is. but whatever, really, this is basically up to you, and your way does work.
Yeah, my fake people can be a bit idealized. :D
But hey, I like them.

As far as I'm concerned, their similarity/lack of distinction is what makes it a reasonable result. Of course, plenty of crazy things happen to natlangs too.
rickardspaghetti wrote:Hejsan, Ossicone. Det verkar som du äntligen har bestämt dig för att gå med i ZBB. Ceresz blir nog överlycklig.
I've been watching silently for a while. :)
Does that mean I make a thread here dedicated to 'svenska och horor' too?

EDIT: Weird smileys... O_o

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:42 pm
by Acid Badger
I just saw this thread and thought "Another thread for Inyauk?!" but then I realized this was not the CBB.

Welcome Ossicone! I'm Avo on the CBB, if you remember. :)

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:51 pm
by rickardspaghetti
Ossicone wrote:
rickardspaghetti wrote:Hejsan, Ossicone. Det verkar som du äntligen har bestämt dig för att gå med i ZBB. Ceresz blir nog överlycklig.
I've been watching silently for a while. :)
Does that mean I make a thread here dedicated to 'svenska och horor' too?
Maybe, but there is a thread for practicing fluency in foreign languages. [Link] I go there to practice Lakota. You can practice your Swedish there if you want. If you want to practice Inyauk, there is a thread for that too. [Link]

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:54 pm
by Ossicone
Fanu wrote:I just saw this thread and thought "Another thread for Inyauk?!" but then I realized this was not the CBB.
Welcome Ossicone! I'm Avo on the CBB, if you remember. :)
You can never escape Inyauk!

Hello, and I do remember.
rickardspaghetti wrote: Maybe, but there is a thread for practicing fluency in foreign languages. [Link] I go there to practice Lakota. You can practice your Swedish there if you want. If you want to practice Inyauk, there is a thread for that too. [Link]
I will try and be a serious conlanger here for as long as possible. (I'd estimate one day.)

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:22 pm
by Simmalti
The script is VERY nice, though as has been suggested, I think it would look cooler if the vowels were written as diacritics. (Regardless though, it's awesome!)

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:26 pm
by Cockroach
Welcome to the ZBB Ossicone. I'm afraid we don't really have a "watering hole" like at the CBB though

Also, ! at the script

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:30 pm
by Ossicone
Simmalti wrote:The script is VERY nice, though as has been suggested, I think it would look cooler if the vowels were written as diacritics. (Regardless though, it's awesome!)
Tack!
Cockroach wrote:Welcome to the ZBB Ossicone. I'm afraid we don't really have a "watering hole" like at the CBB though
Also, ! at the script
Thanks.
I didn't tell you there was a script? :roll:

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:48 pm
by Bristel
Welcome to the ZBB!

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:43 am
by *Ceresz
Välkommen :-D.

See, I still retain the Haddock avatar here?

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:47 am
by Ossicone
@Bristel: Thanks.

@Cereal: I missed Haddock! He embodies all of your virtues: drinking, smoking and pirating. And beard.

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:52 am
by Adrianovaz2007
Even with just three vowels and lenght distinction the conlang looks awesome (I'm a man of many vowels)! Oh, the map and script: Great! :D
P.S.: Welcome to ZBB and have fun conlanging!

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:03 pm
by Ossicone
Adrianovaz2007 wrote:Even with just three vowels and lenght distinction the conlang looks awesome (I'm a man of many vowels)! Oh, the map and script: Great! :D
P.S.: Welcome to ZBB and have fun conlanging!
Thanks and thanks. :)
It was kinda hard for me to stick to three vowels at first but I'm glad I did.

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:23 pm
by jmcd
I'll probably the grammar on Friday or so. In the meantime, welcome to the zbb! Out of food though. :(

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:24 pm
by Serali
I want to see the pretty scripty! I LOVE it!

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Re: Inyauk

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:30 pm
by Bristel
I forgot to add my alternative welcoming snack of zucchini and cocoa!

Would love to see more examples of Inyauk.

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:24 pm
by Ossicone
jmcd wrote:I'll probably the grammar on Friday or so. In the meantime, welcome to the zbb! Out of food though. :(
I'd very much appreciate any comments you have then. : )

Bristel wrote:I forgot to add my alternative welcoming snack of zucchini and cocoa!

Would love to see more examples of Inyauk.
Thanks. And what kind of examples? Translations?

Moar script:
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And for kicks:
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Re: Inyauk

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:46 am
by Serali
Preeeeeeeeety! *.*

What's the last one though? And alternative style? And what's it say? :mrgreen:

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Re: Inyauk

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:53 am
by Simmalti
The vertical script is awesome! I prefer it over the horizontal lines because of the pretty joining lines

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:16 am
by Ossicone
Serali wrote:What's the last one though? And alternative style? And what's it say? :mrgreen:
Actually it doesn't say anything anymore! That's old pre-revision Inyauk. I'm just too lazy to redo it.

The last one is a different script. But you'll have to wait for that one. : P
Simmalti wrote:The vertical script is awesome! I prefer it over the horizontal lines because of the pretty joining lines
Tack! :D

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:20 am
by Bristel
If you want some examples for translation, I could find some interesting sentences. (since I asked for examples)

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:48 am
by Ossicone
I have plenty translated, but if you're looking for something specific I'd be happy to do some translations you give me.

But for now I'll give you these sentences. I really enjoyed doing these translations at the time.

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I can't stop thinking about that girl.
ʧím jaθúrak apjaʦíbimaf
ʧí-im    ja-θúr-ak      apja-ʦíb-im-af
1sg-AGT  NEG-think-END  DST-youth-FEM-ON

Painting the castle took about fifty days.
ifátirnadiukaaxi ifíʔulatatia naxápiulnaθaaluʧat
i-fátir-na-díuka-axi   i-fíul-atat-ia        nax-ápi<u>l-na-θáal-uʧat
DEF-act-ADJ-paint-RST  DEF-building-AUG-BEN  IDF-day<pl>-ADJ-50-DUR

I was about to take a bite of my sandwich.
ʧím xáʧalam iʧmúlataja
ʧí-im    xáʧ-al-am     iʧ-múlat-aja
1sg-AGT  bite-PST-SRT  1sgP-food-OBJ

The boys/lads were running about town.
iʦíʔubutim ʧákalana nuránʧabaʃ
i-ʦí<u>b-ut-im         ʧák-al-ana   nu-ránʧab-aʃ
DEF-youth<pl>-MSC-AGT  run-PST-CNT  ALL-town-IN

Life isn't about functioning in society; it's about doing everything you ever wanted to do.
θím jalúʃana iʔáʔuʃbaiiɲaukur; θím lúʃana ifátiurabanifinur.
θí-im    ja-lúʃ-ana    i-áuʃ-ba-i-iɲa<u>k-ur            θí-im    lúʃ-ana   i-fáti<u>ra-ba-nífin-ur
4sg-AGT  NEG-live-CNT  DEF-flow-PSS-DEF-person<pl>-MNS; 4sg-AGT  live-CNT  DEF-action<pl>-PSS-desire-MNS
'One doesn't live by the flow of society; one lives by the actions of desire'

I may believe that the police are the most evil people on Earth, but I'm not about to shoot a cop.
ʧír lúʔutaamúxiaana ir izóniaknalutiʦanaiɲaukim síʔaaxaf, tír ʧím táʔaram naxizóniakia
ʧí-ir    lúut-na-múxia-ana         ir   i-zóniak-na-lut-íʦa-na-iɲa<u>k-im       síaax-af,
1sg-PSR  believe-ADJ-possible-CNT  <RC  DEF-police-ADJ-SPR-evil-person<pl>-AGT  world-ON,

tír  ʧí-im    táar-am   nax-i-zóniak-ia.
but  1sg-AGT  kill-SRT  IDF-DEF-police-BEN.

Re: Inyauk

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:57 am
by *Ceresz
I may believe that the police are the most evil people on Earth, but I'm not about to shoot a cop.
Now there's a sentence that could come in handy :mrgreen:.