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 Post subject: Conlingual Telephone
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:00 am 
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:12 am 
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You are describing a conlang relay--they're quite feasible, and they happen on the CONLANG list. In fact there's two going on right now.

The first person composes a text, then sends it to the next player with a lexicon and sufficient grammar notes to decipher it. Next player translates it into their own conlang and sends it on.


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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 10:47 am 
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Oh. Sorry. I wondered what thopse relays were. Well, never mind. :D


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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:00 am 
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Hey, just because people have been doing them somewhere else doesn't mean you can't spearhead one here!


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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:12 am 
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I thought there was one here, but I guess I was wrong. So, does anybody want to do a relay?


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:22 am 
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Ow would you determine who the next person is? Are the teams preset?

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:27 am 
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There's that "cursed relay" but I think that's more the creation of languages, rather than translating.

Sounds good, I'll need to finish the Myonian grammar (Or Zukish, or Ancaron...), but I have plenty of time now.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:43 am 
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You also need two people whose job is just to translate back into English at the end (one for each team), which is perfect for anyone who doesn't have any (good enough) conlangs. Like, I didn't make any languages for a number of years, so I did that the last time there was a relay here, which must have been at least a year and a half ago and probably more than that.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:24 pm 
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I'd be happy to translate something into South Eresian for the relay.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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Incidentally, the ZBB term for "Conlang Translation Relay" is "Conlingual Telephone". There've been 4 so far (I think all the threads have been pruned though) and the rules are slightly different from those used on CONLANG. I suggest June if you want to start a new one. An important factor is having a good text: not too long and without a lot of specialized vocabulary.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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Is it? Are they? Doesn't really matter.

I pulled the PGT rules out of my arse, FWIW; they were roughly what I remembered from the last one. The fact that people have copied them is reassuring, in that I probably got them "right". :P

For this the rules I remember were roughly the PGT ones that I gave, except that you don't have to understand the language you're translating from because the person before you provides a grammatical outline of the language (which can be complete, or just enough to translate the text) along with the text to translate. And you send an English translation to the organiser so that people can keep track of the changes. How is this different from the conlang-l rules? (I mean I'm probably going to look them up now anyway but it's worth asking!)

The one thing I can think of is the teams thing, which was introduced because there are generally a lot of us interested.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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I organized at least 3 conlingual telephones on this board, but it was something like three years ago since the last one. Here's all the info I have on it: http://www.kneequickie.com/kq/Conlingual_Telephone

I made the mistake of having to leave for a month during the third one, so I think the results never got posted. Sorry about that, I probably shouldn't be the one to organize it this time.

But I'll sign up with my conlang Sęimaką.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:02 pm 
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I'll put Myonian up, and hope I have the grammar reasonably finished by the time this starts. (I am working quite fast on it though...)


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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I can translate into... well, I'm not sure; my conlangs are currently all developed in different areas. It'd be either Arve, Kett, or Kannow, though. Kannow would give the most interesting results, but Arve is the easiest for me to expand and Kett has the largest vocabulary.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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Usually my conlangs are designed to have a bunch of juicy irregularities that would trip someone up, but not this time. Sęimaką is relatively (hopefully not artificially) regular, because I actually want to try and learn it myself (heh, yeah, lofty goal.) Like Lyhoko Leaci, it's not quite ready but I ought to have it ready in, say, a month? Should be fun either way.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:42 am 
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I might be interested in participating, but I'd need to know the projected dates first. My school is weird and runs later than most, so if the relay runs during or close to my finals season I won't be able to join.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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Mr. Z, are you going to organise it then? Because I could always do it if you think it'd be a big hassle or something. (well, the offer's there anyway)

I would be doing it into Sentalian, although I'd probably need to write it up a bit better.

I could technically do it into Panceor or Yaufulti, but they're either old or have a vocabulary of 30 words.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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Yes, I guess I'll organize it.
Sentalian seems good. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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I'm interested too. I can offer any of the languages linked in my sig; or possibly two of them if I'm scheduled early in one translation chain and quite late in another one.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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I'd like to do one of these. It's the first time I've joined one, so yeah.

Bengedian's pretty much the only lang I have, so I guess that's what I'll be doing :) I've been looking for a reason to use my conlang for days now.

I have some advice: Make sure the initial text isn't well-known, so people don't know ahead of time what it's supposed to be. It'll be more fun that way ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:10 am 
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What do you guys want to translate from?


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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I'll translate from South Eresian unless if Risla would prefer to translate from my Sęimaką.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang Relay
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I don't really care, as long as I have time to get a working grammar going before its my turn.


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