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I usually just respond, "Why do painters paint?" Sometimes I have to clarify that I mean amateur painters, but it usually works well enough.

The difference between a lot of hobbies that have been mentioned (for example poker) and conworlding, is that there is no end in the former. Conworlding always ends up with a product of some sort. But I'm starting to have issues with just storing my product on my harddrive. It is not a money issue, althogh lack of time is an issue here, which indirectly relates to money. I have other things that I could do that are seemingly more beneficial for me in the long run than conlanging. And those are the things that I have been doing for the past two years. It's not that I don't like conlanging and conworlding, but it seems to end up at the bottom of my to-do list. Not because I don't like it, but because it frustrates me. It makes me happy, but it also makes me sad.

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In my experience, it too often doesn't. I can never seem to complete a language or conculture to the point where I feel I can show it to people.

For me, the problem with conlanging is that, when languages are treated as an end in themselves, writing more than a grammar and a few hundred words seems like a pointless exercise. At that point, I've already derived whatever aesthetic pleasure I'm going to from the language, and any further detail I might add would be for the sake of usability--and faced with the realization that none of my languages are going to be used as such, I'll generally start a new project rather than fleshing out an old one.

Not to diminish the efforts of those with fabulously detailed languages and 10k-word lexicons, of course. I'd love to be in that camp, I just can't seem to get there. If you have such a language, what did you do to keep it from going stale over the years?

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I know the feeling. I sometimes think I should spend more time with friends instead of doing constuff. Sometimes I fear that in 20 years time or so, I will have a beautiful and pretty complete conlang, but no friends and no social life whatsoever. As was said above, conlanging/worlding is mostly a private thing, and it's also a huge project that you' ve taken up. If you had three lives, you could probably spend all three of them working on your project and still not reaching a point of satisfaction. I mean, creating a world, that's what nature took 4.5 billion years in the case of our own, and it's still not complete, because there is no such thing as 'complete' (unless it is blown away by an exploding sun).
So I think you have to love the process of creating a conlang or conworld, else it can be very frustrating. Also, try to work out small things at a time, which will give a sense of completing something. As has been said earlier, you can achieve a lot by just working on it in the weekends, and there will be plenty of time for other things. Just avoid thinking about all the work that still needs to be done and enjoy the moment.

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Ernie: Nothing.
Bert: What did you say?
Ernie: Nothing.
Bert: I thought you said something.

13.5billion years (if you include the big bang)(though that is 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars)(7046.6204408365747787361181577316 stars a second)(If you think about the number of stars capable of having life...)

I love the act of creating conlangs. That's why I do it. But it seems to cause me more anxiety than a hobby should., probably because I care too much That's all.

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I was talking about the Earth, not the universe.

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Ernie: Nothing.
Bert: What did you say?
Ernie: Nothing.
Bert: I thought you said something.

I created my language to use it and that's what I've been doing through the years. In music, poetry and conculturing. Also I've learned a lot about languages in general (bear in mind that I lack what people would call "formal education") and the act of creating a language has forced me to think of concepts and ponder over philosophical matters in a way that I normally wouldn't have done.

I don't reckon I'll ever get to the point where Xhaimeran will go stale. And I certainly will not get tired of it as there's so much of me in it. And the possibilities for me to use it are endless.

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"Khal malenol akher venkhasa!"

I mostly do conlanging and conworlding because I like the process of creation and not to end up with some finished product. I mean, what would I do to fill my spare time if some day I found out that I had finished my conworld?



It's funny, because I had the opposite experience when I tried to tell some of my close friends of my strange hobby. They really tried to understand and show interest. But still, they had some hobbies themselves that others didn't understand, so perhaps they knew what it was all about...

Like?

Dungeons & Dragons and such. The point is that they were just as nerdy about it as I am about conlanging.

I came to terms with the fact that people will show scant interest in my conlanging and conworlding efforts many, many years ago. And, to be honest, that makes me happy because the thought of being well known doesn't excite me. Like I'm a signed-up member of the anti-celebrity culture.

In the end conlanging and conworlding can be great fun, but friends and lovers can be even better fun. It's a balance thing, innit.

re the posterity thingy: I sorted that by getting the British Library to archive my website ...

those who seek fame rarely get it =)

That's wonderful! Now if your site went down, the archive will continue to be there, and no loss!

Gevey will live!

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[bɹ̠ˤʷɪs.təɫ]
Nōn quālibet inīquā cupiditāte illectus hoc agō
Yo te pongo en tu lugar...
Taisc mach Daró

I tend to get the kind that say something along the lines of: "Uh-huh?" And I can tell they have no idea what I just said.
Is the statement "A language(or religion) I am making" that odd?

Though I have hit upon one or two people whose eyes light up and you can tell they are holding back from saying "You can do that?!" I'm hoping they decided to pursue it, I haven't seen them since.

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Soušui igo nuř bangoř heurlich
I wish only to be happy

My bf refers to Inyauk as my cult. XD

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Amo enure zuri nuek eratjiak kirvajk kam.
Apøpi geŋgenør køgir. Tæktæk po asindæ ninikrir meu nikrindæir.

I don't think I've ever had a negative reaction the few times it's brought up. People either are uninterested (which is understandable, since not everyone's going to be interesting studying how language works) or seems at least somewhat interested and ask questions about it.

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The Dikaesh Foundation
Discover Sylvane

My roommate seems to be alright with it. I'm sure that he believes that it is my version of a intellectual pursuit.

My mom thinks it is interesting, but I haven't gone into detail about it with her.

My father thinks that I should cut back on it in favor of more useful things, but isn't against it.

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[bɹ̠ˤʷɪs.təɫ]
Nōn quālibet inīquā cupiditāte illectus hoc agō
Yo te pongo en tu lugar...
Taisc mach Daró

I never talk about it. I hardly ever mention that I study linguistics; I don't think anyone knows that except my parents and a few people who I knew in high school. Everyone else who I know IRL knows practically nothing about my interests (except possibly that I'm majoring in political philosophy), and I prefer to keep things that way.

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Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

My parents had no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned Esperanto once, so I never went into the subject again. But both of my circles of college friends included conlangers, so it wasn't a totally mysterious thing to people I brought it up to.

I live in a fairly Christian community (I enjoy it but enough said.) So when I brought it up, I was asked if I was trying to recreate God's language, the first language, and stuff along similar lines.

I said no and that it was a hopeless endeavor. Besides the closest I think you can get is learning Hebrew. They acted disappointed. Then they brought up Tolkien.

Have you ever looked around you and noticed how hopelessly mediocre people can be?

All the time.

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Tibetan Dwarvish - My own ergative "dwarf-lang"

Quasi-Khuzdul - An expansion of J.R.R. Tolkien's Dwarvish language from The Lord of the Rings

Yep.

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Soušui igo nuř bangoř heurlich
I wish only to be happy

Every day.

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If I stop posting out of the blue it probably is because my computer and the board won't cooperate and let me log in.!

Nope.