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TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:21 pm
by Ollock
I thought I would try to get some soundbites for the Conlangery podcast. If people would translate this text:

Welcome to Conlangery, the podcast about constructed languages and the people who create them.

and give me either a recording or a phonetic transcription, I might tag it on to the front of the show. Cultural translation of podcast to something more technologically appropriate is acceptable, and you may either borrow the name phonetically or come up with your own creative translation/calque.

EDIT: OK, new plan. I cannot read phonetic transcriptions fluently past a couple words, so, you can translate the whole thing, but I will only record "Welcome to Conlangery". If you would like to have the whole thing, please record it and send to conlangery@gmail.com

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:05 pm
by Ulan
Welcome to Conlangery, the podcast about constructed languages and the people who create them.

tzoi:

<klahoya swa-qonlang, podqas nëmalupa tzoilel-qangpa nü qangpawawa swëda kopa iktahlel>
/la.xɯ.ja sβä kʰɯ~.la~ pʰɯ.kʰa nʌ.mɑ.lu.pɑ tɕʰɯi.le: kʰä~.pʰä.βä.βä sβɜ.tä ikʰ.tax.le:/ (Standard Kletu Accent)
/tɬa.hɯ.ɰa swä kʰɯ~.la~ / (Kletu accent)
/ɬa.hɯç sβä xɯn.lan/ (Selenge accent)

Theres alot more accent, but those are the weirdest ones

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:39 pm
by Dewrad
In Classical Tailancan:

Ichente·se arnothialoro, ho rotephro pā arnothialūis os aidē aror eūt.
[ i'kʰentɛ sarnɔ'tʰjalɔro çɔrɔ'tɛpʰrɔ paːr nɔ'tʰjaluːis ɔ'saide 'jarɔ rɛuːθ ]

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:55 pm
by Nesescosac
Yz étsgosei ekÉtskavùtošetsa, ħafòãksei ùétskavùtošewá ùjakavkejošewá.
/yz ǽtsgɔsej ækǽtskavùtɔʂætsa, ħafɔ̀ãksej ùǽtskavùtɔʂæwá ùjakavkejoʂæwá/

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:07 pm
by Ollock
Maybe I should have just made it "Welcome to Conlangery." The whole phrase is murderous to get through reading from IPA.

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:Yz gosei ekKavùtošetsa, fòãksei ùkavùtošewá ùkavkejošewá.
/yz gOsej ek:avu_Ltos`{tsa, fo_La~ksej u_Lkavu_LtOs`{wa_H u_Lkavk{jOs`{wa_H/

PS: Please use IPA, I read it a lot better than X-SAMPA.

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:46 pm
by Lyhoko Leaci
Zukish (pick a dialect. Any dialect.)

Note: This is now the old form of Zukish. The new form is not formed enough to translate this.

Äen amawn a i Konlangrë, eppa kexkekurm kakë labexanëpnisnën y eppa züþkeen agja nisn kïnen.
[ˈeʔɛn ˈamaw a ɪ ˈkʊnlangɹi ˈɛpːa ˈkɛxˈkɛkʊɹm ˈkaki ˈlabɛxanˈipˈnɪsninj ˈɛpːa ˈzjuθkɛʔɛn ˈagʤa ˈnɪsou ˈkainɛn] (Myonian dialect)
[ˈeʔan ˈamaw a ə ˈkonlankɹi ˈapːa ˈkahˈkagoɹm ˈkagi ˈlabahanˈipˈnəsninj ˈapːa ˈziufkaʔan ˈakʧa ˈnəsou ˈkainan] (Southern dialect)
[ˈeʔɛn ˈamaw a ə ˈkɔnlaŋgɹi ˈɛpːa ˈkɛɣˈkɛkɔɹm ˈkaki ˈlabɛɣanˈipˈnəsnənj ˈɛpːa ˈzjuθkɛʔɛn ˈagʤa ˈnəsou ˈkainɛn] (Dolinluke dialect)
[ˈeʔɛn ˈamaw a ɪ ˈkɔnlaŋgɹi ˈɛpːa ˈkɛxˈkɛkɔɹm ˈkaki ˈlabɛɣanˈipˈnɪsninj ˈɛpːa ˈzyθkɛʔɛn ˈagʤa ˈnɪsʊ ˈkonɛn] (Peninsular dialect)
[ˈeʔɛn ˈamaw a ɪ ˈkonlaŋgɹi ˈɛpːa ˈkɛxˈkɛkoɹm ˈkaki ˈlabɛɣanˈipˈnɪsninj ˈɛpːa ˈzʊθkɛʔɛn ˈagʤa ˈnɪsɔ ˈkənɛn] (Central dialect)

[ou], [ai], and [iu] are diphthongs.

Myonian

(Note: This is a pitch accent language, with high pitch corresponding to stressed syllables.)

Wi weelkamen ði Gaspiiku, ði wordwurp abyuut gawurktaspiikor iind ðu piipulur ðet wurken ðeem.
[ˈwɪ ˈweʟkəmn̩ ˈðɪ gəˈspiːkʊ ˈðɪ ˈwɔɹdwɚp əˈbjuːt gəˈwɚktəˈspiːkɔɹ ˈiːnd ðʊ ˈpiːplɚ ðɛt ˈwɚkn̩ ðem]

For those, the part up to the comma is the "Welcome to Conlangery" part, if you want to shorten it.

Ancaron (Just the "Welcome to Conlangery" part, in two versions, one with the original name, the other with a translation)

Danasapotcor mina.
[ˈdanasˈəpotˈkoɾmɪˈnə]

Conlangeri mina.
[ˈkonlaŋˈgeɾɪˈmɪnə]

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:53 pm
by MisterBernie
In Baranxe'i:
śātrīja śaphēvīrvaf uði – raptrīr lāŋśhēigēju ðeir hēvīr sepŋanux ā sepnēinvē
[ʃɒːtɾyjɐ ʃɑpˈhɛːβʏrβɐɸ ˈuːðɪ | ˈrɑːptɾʏɾ ˈlɒːŋʃ.hɛɪgɛjɯ ðeɪɾ ˈhɛːβʏɾ ˈseːpŋɑnɯx ɒː ˈseːpnɛɪnvɛ̆]
healthy·ANIM-PL building-language-NMLZ·F-ADPOS at - show-NMLZ web-state-INAN about language<ADPOS.PL> build-PASS-PTCP·INAN-ADPOS.PL and build-A<ADPOS.PL>-3.PL.INAN.GEN

'Welcome to Conlangery' goes up to the dash.

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:03 pm
by Přemysl
EDIT for Majiusgaru

Welcome to Conlangery
Lenemicana t'ipi maru Rabalami Jiusgatihua
[ɬenemikʰana tʃʼipʰi maɾu rapalami çukatʰiwa]
POS-walk-2PL easily INST 3PL-world conlang-PL
"May you walk easily through the World of Conlangs"

The full version would be:
Lenemicana t'ipi maru rabalami jiusgatihua, pai hue seya basgisiu ña jiusgatihua ye rangotisga.
[ɬenemikʰana tʃʼipʰi maɾu rapalami çukatʰiwa, pʰaj we sʰeja pakiʃʰu ɲa çukatʰiwa je raŋotʰika]
POS-walk-2PL easily INST 3PL-world conlang-PL, CONJ.CONC COP this story-wind/internet BEN conlang-PL CONJ 3PL-create-3PL

I accidently had used 3PL instead of 2PL last night.

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:51 pm
by Risla
In South Eresian:

Queprétix ná cua P'eloniryos. Él ha pep'elonirihuel pep'eloniryanihuel ya tlájimatl.
[kɛˈpʰɾ̥ɛtiʃ ˈnɑː kʷɒ ˈpʼɛːloˌniɾjos | ˈɛl ʔɑ pɛpʼɛːloˌniɾiwɛl pɛˈpʼɛːloniɾˌjaniwel jɑ ˈt͡ɬʰɑːximat͡ɬ]
/ke-pretj-ʃ ˈ-na kʷɒ ˈpʼel-on-Ø-irj-os-Ø e-l ʔa ~-ˈpʼel-on-Ø-irj-Ø-iw-l ~-ˈpʼel-on-Ø-irj-an-Ø-iw-l ja ˈt͡ɬaxj-mat͡ɬ-Ø/
2PP.INDIR-greet-1PP.ABS (2PP)-DAT LOC speak-method.VBZ-NOMZ-create-ABSTR.VBZ-NOMZ | COP NOM PL-speak-method.VBZ-NOMZ-create.VBZ-NOMZ-about.VBZ-INAN.ABS PL-speak-method.VBZ-NOMZ-create.VBZ-A.VBZ-NOMZ-about-INAN.ABS REL sound-message.VBZ-NOMZ

(the verbalization and nominalization processes definitely aren't completely batshit, nope.)

I'll send in a recording in a moment.

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:28 pm
by finlay
Sentalian:
Kànlaŋylil, ypnyykèèsuuz nè nu ypnyy mo xòŋaiz xuum zuycbàileel, mààn tiy!
[ˌkɒnlaŋəˈlil, əpˌnɛi̯kɛːˈsuːz nɛ nu əpˈnɛi̯ mo xɔˈŋai̯z xuːm zuə̯ɕbɒi̯ˈleːl, mɒːn tiə̯]
Conlangery-BEN, invent-language-DEF.DAT and 3.ACC invent REL person-DEF.DAT about audio-show-DEF.BEN, welcome IMP

Sentalian's orthography is phonemic apart from <yy> → [ɛi]. As you should be able to see, the other letters that are different from the IPA include y = [ə], à = [ɒ], è = [ɛ], ò = [ɔ], c = [ɕ]. Doubled letters are long. If you do decide to use it, I wouldn't be too fussy about your intonation, although technically I would wish to stipulate a slight rising tone at the end of the sentence; fairly flat overall. Might make a recording tomorrow.

Here are some less (ok, the "posh standard" is actually more) phonemic alternative accents:
posh standard: [ˌkɒnlaŋəˈlil, əpˌnɨːkɛːˈsuːz nɛ nu əpˈnɨː mo xɔŋa.ˈiz xuːm zu.əɕbɒ.iˈleːl, mɒːn ˈti.ə]
Kanteian: [ˌkɑnlaŋəˈlil, əpˌnɛi̯kɛːˈsuː nɛ nu əpˈnɛi̯ mo χɔˈŋɛ́i̯ χəu̯m zuə̯sbəi̯ˈleːl, mɒːn tiə̯]
Rempocian: [kʰanlaːnɨɫiɫ, ɨpnɛi̯kʰɛːsuːɾ ne nu ɨpnɛi̯ mə xonaːiɾ xuːm ɾuɨsbaiɫeːɫ, mɔːn tʰiɨ]
Vidoan: [kʰɔnlɛŋalɨl, apnəːkʰɛːsúː ne nɨ apnəː mu xuŋáí xuːm zɨaʃpɔileːl, mɑːn tʰɨa]
Facurian: [kanlaŋlɪl, pnɛikesuɾ nɛ nʊ pnɛi mə hɔŋaɪɾ hum ɾuʃbaɪlel, mɔn ti]
Mybutan: [kɑnlaŋlɪl, pnaikeːsyːz nɛ nʏ pnai mɔ xɔŋaiz xyːm zyːʃbaileːl, mɑːn tiː]
Dotolian: [kɑnlaŋəlil, əpneːkeəsuː ne nu əpneː mo hoŋaːi huəm zuəʃbɑileəl, mɑən tiə]


it would shorten to 'Kànlaŋylil mààn tiy', incidentally. Head final syntax and all...

I've avoided translating "Conlangery", because it would come out as Ypnyykèèsumacax or something like that, and it's too many "ypnyy"s to have in one sentence, frankly. Ypnyy means 'invent', kèèsu means 'language', and 'macax' is a suffix referring to a follower of something. That's fine, but there's no other word for 'constructed language' or 'conlang' besides 'ypnyykèèsu', and I've used the verb 'ypnyy' to refer to the act of creating the language too. There probably is a distinct verb 'to create' somewhere in my lexicon, but I can't be bothered finding it.

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:43 pm
by TaylorS
Mekoshan:

Veggm tu Kncrokdlęvjmekhn, d'eernehšo boh kncrokdlęvž n da pibu dehmekhnm.
[ˈvekːm tʰu kʰn̩ˈʦˤɔkʰtlẽvʤmexn̩ ˈdɛːʕnɛʃːo bo͜ kʰːnˈʦˤɔkʰtʰlẽvʒ n̩ da ˈpibu deˈm̥ːexnm̩]

Ø-veggm tu kncrokd-ląvj-mekh-n, da eerneh-šo boh kncrokd-ląvž n da pibu deh-mekh-n-m
IMP-welcome INDEF.DAT constructed-language-make-IMPFV.PTCP DEF internet-show about constructed-language.PL and DEF people REL.NOM-make-DYN-3PL.ACC

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:22 pm
by Nesescosac
Ollock wrote:PS: Please use IPA, I read it a lot better than X-SAMPA.
Done - also, I corrected some mistakes in the text.

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:10 am
by Jipí
Ayeri:

Manisu ya Konlengeri (Narānacan), si sinturakānley benung narānyena vehisa nay keynamena sirī tiyatos.
/maˈnisu ja ˈkɔnlɛŋɛri (naˈraːnaʧan) | si sɪnturaˈkaːnleɪ bəˈnʊŋ naˈraːnjena veˈçisa naɪ keɪnaˈmena siˈriː ˈtiatɔs/
greet-PASS-IMP LOC Conlangery (Language-AGV-NMLZ), REL (COP) broadcast-P.INAN web language-PL-GEN build-PASS and people-GEN REL(-GEN)-INST create-3PN.PAT
'Be greeted at Conlangery (Conlangery), which is a broadcast of/about built languages and of/about people by which they are created.'

Sinturakān 'broadcast' contains the words sinto 'wave', turaka- 'to send, to transfer' (why is that such a long word?) and the nominalizing suffix -an. So literally a "wave transmission". As for Konlengeri and Narānacan, you may choose yourself. Narānacan I built from narān 'word, language' + -ati 'maker/producer of things' + -an, where I reduced -atian to -acan via -atyan.

I'm trying to pronounce people's IPA transcriptions right now and fail pretty much. I'm curious to hear them pronounced by the hosts on the show :D

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:24 am
by Nortaneous
Arve: (going to redo the relevant bits of syntax when I get home, but)
Des Conlangery leich vön sattes.

In Standard, that'd be (was going to give both IPA and X-SAMPA because my phone hates Unicode, but nooo, I can't even copy text in an input field without copying the whole fucking field, so http://conlanger.com/xipa.html )
[%CA~O~_^%nla~NI"rIj "lVi_^M\_0 Y "tr_0_hV?Is]

But you could also get away with Midland, which is:
[%Ca~@~_^%l{~NI%rIj "lVi_^C Y "r_0V_ki_k_^s]

So do whichever's easier. Though prosody is unintuitive enough that it'd probably be better to wait until I'm at home and can do a recording... Essentially, stress and pitch go up, instead of down, in a prosodic block(?) -- i.e. "con", or rather "des con" is lower and less stressed than "lang", which is about equal, though possibly lower, than "leich". (Why doesn't IPA have a symbol for tertiary stress?) But at the same time, "con" and "ry" are longer than "lang" and "leich", because they don't have an unstressed syllable attached to them. (I'm not sure how to handle the problem of the Midland syllable loss in "sattes". I'd use it to reintroduce vowel length, but there's enough going on already, and I've not elided anything else in that position so all the long vowels would be creaky and all the creaky vowels would be long.)

Northern is much easier, though, but I've forgotten how it works, and the grammar would be simplified in ways that I've not worked out yet. (As a side note, I really want to see a conlang that innovates phrases as a result of prosody changing reduction patterns, as happened IMI with "I've not", which I think exists because it's one syllable shorter than "I haven't", as well as avoiding an ugly vowel cluster. Though it appears more in writing for me, so it's probably actually just that it's shorter.)

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:31 am
by Foolster41
(Moved from accidently posted in the original conlangy thread. :P):

In salthan, "conlangy" could be done a few ways, and I couldn't decide which one was best, so here'a all 3.

No matter what I do, it's biting off the begining of the first one, at least on my end. I'm going to try again later.

Dikaɘʃa in each is "welcome", and Ul- prefix is "inside of"

Dikaɘʃa ulkonlanȝali
(konlanȝali "Konlangee" transposed)

Dikaɘʃa ulsɘkdashaΘɘnai
sɘkdas-haΘɘ-nai
To build/put two things together-[word-PL] - "To build words" or "to build language"

Dikaɘʃa ultʃaΘoshaΘɘnai
tʃaΘos-haΘɘn-ai
"to mold/from-word-PL - "To mold words" or "to mold language"

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:46 am
by treskro
Proto-Vdangku:
iōlveirkåvdangku exhbbevgiānāong
[joːɬˈβɛiʁkʰ.əˌɸtaŋ.kʰu ɛˈxɓɛˌɸkiaː.naːɴ]
ATTR-make-language enter.PERM.POT.Np

Bettaunn:
歡迎入上在人工語言。
[xwan˦˥ɥæn˧njep˧ ʃun˦˩ njen˧gõ˦˥ ɥo˦˥ɥan˧]
huánüaengniep shùn niengónn üóüan

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:44 am
by Timmytiptoe
Nortaneous wrote: Des Conlangery leich vön sattes.
[%CA~O~_^%nla~NI"rIj "lVi_^M\_0 Y "tr_0_hV?Is]
[%Ca~@~_^%l{~NI%rIj "lVi_^C Y "r_0V_ki_k_^s]
Here you go:
[ˌçɑ̃ɔ̯̃ˌnlãŋɪˈrɪj ˈlʌi̯ɰ̥ ʏ ˈtr̥ʰʌʔɪs]
[ˌçãə̯̃ˌlæ̃ŋɪˌrɪj ˈlʌi̯ç ʏ ˈr̥ʌ̰ḭ̯s]

(I have a related idea for a website: Let me IPA that for you :) )

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:57 am
by ----
Welcome to Conlangery:
Dersembà ràderusios!
[ˈd̥eʂemˌb̥ɞ ʁœːˈd̥ɛʁusjəs]

Simple enough :D

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:45 pm
by vampireshark
Here it is in Standard Telèmor:
Dobrovare èt "Conlangery"
[do.bɾoˈva.ɾe ət konʹlan.kə.ɾi]
(Telèmor does not normally adapt proper names of works of literature, art, or otherwise into Telèmor orthography, but the pronunciation is modified accordingly.)

And how about Standard Ilian, if you're also up for that:
Kanlãgáry týret abycytatke. (informal)
[ˈkan.lɐ̃.gaː.ɾi ˈtiːɾet ˈa.bi.ʃi.tɐtˌke]
Kanlãgáry Bacqýret abycytatke. (more formal)
[ˈkan.lɐ̃.gaː.ɾi ˈbaʃ.t͡ʃiːɾet ˈa.bi.ʃi.tɐtˌke]

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:31 pm
by Grimalkin
'Welcome to conlangery' in both Fuotonh and Ogar:

Fuotonh:

lóitònhjéi hātû xōng bēu
[loi˧˥tʰʊn̥˥˧tɕei˥ xa˧tʰu˧˥˧ ɕʊŋ˧ peu˧]

' Conlangery to you be good'

Ogar:

ǝ neksine mǝkhrede zubredchigne
[ə ˈnɛk.sz̩.nə məˈxre.ðə zuˈvrɛθ.tʃiː.nə]

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:53 pm
by finlay
Foolster41 wrote:(Moved from accidently posted in the original conlangy thread. :P):

In salthan, "conlangy" could be done a few ways, and I couldn't decide which one was best, so here'a all 3.

No matter what I do, it's biting off the begining of the first one, at least on my end. I'm going to try again later.

Dikaɘʃa in each is "welcome", and Ul- prefix is "inside of"

Dikaɘʃa ulkonlanȝali
(konlanȝali "Konlangee" transposed)

Dikaɘʃa ulsɘkdashaΘɘnai
sɘkdas-haΘɘ-nai
To build/put two things together-[word-PL] - "To build words" or "to build language"

Dikaɘʃa ultʃaΘoshaΘɘnai
tʃaΘos-haΘɘn-ai
"to mold/from-word-PL - "To mold words" or "to mold language"
you know... that's a capital theta you've got there. And why on earth are you using yogh?

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:20 pm
by din
Tormiott:

Me yarchadeni tior Ascamiunnaulist
/mə jaɹxæ'ðəɲə tɕoɹ æskamyn:au'list/

lit. You will be gifting warmth to the [result of the artificial good tongue].

"Conlangery" certainly was a challenge... miullist means language, which is made up of miul- (prefix), good, positive and list, (n) blade, tongue. I had to shove in the prefix for artificial, produced, fabricated in there, and then tackle the '-ery' bit. Glad I'd already tackled 'welcome' a while ago.

In fact, it's probably better to go for
Me yarchadeni tior Conlangery
/mə jaɹxæ'ðəɲə tɕoɹ 'konlæŋʁəri/

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:23 pm
by Ollock
din wrote:Tormiott:

Me yarchadeni tior Ascamiunnaulist
/mə jaɹxæ'ðəɲə tɕoɹ æscamyn:au'list/

lit. You will be gifting warmth to the [result of the artificial good tongue].

"Conlangery" certainly was a challenge... miullist means language, which is made up of miul- (prefix), good, positive and list, (n) blade, tongue. I had to shove in the prefix for artificial, produced, fabricated in there, and then tackle the '-ery' bit.

Glad I'd already tackled 'welcome' a while ago.
Is that really a palatal stop?

Also, I'm guessing everyone is putting the stress markings before the stressed syllable?

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:25 pm
by din
Certainly wasn't supposed to be. Fixed that ;)

Yes, the stress mark are before the stressed syllables.

Re: TC: This is Conlangery

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:34 pm
by Christopher Schröder
[/i]Wellijrvient ta Luigenbildend, tha courtwervend tha gëleuiges et gëbiltenluigen and gebiltenluigiern, thâs wieu ijnen bild.[/i]

[ˌu̯ɛ.liʀˈvi̯ɛn ˈt̪ɑː ly̯iˌʒɛn.bɪlˈd̪ɛnd ˈðɑː ˌkʊʀ.t̪u̯ɛʀˈvɛnd̪ ˈðɑː ˌʒɑ.li̯œˈʒɛz ˈeː ˌʒɑ.bɪlˌt̪ɛn.ly̯iˈʒɛːn ˈand̪ ˌʒɑ.bɪlˌt̪ɛn.ly̯iˈʒi̯ɛʀn ˈðɑːz ˈʋi̯œ iˈnɛːn ˈbɪld̪]

Note: Stresses are fairly light, but still detectable.

Coming up with a word for "podcasting" was not terribly difficult —courtwervend literally means "short-throwing", as opposed to telleswervend, literally "wide-throwing", which would normally be used for "broadcasting".