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Author:  Ollock [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: On succinctness


Author:  JeremyHussell [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:43 pm ]
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Author:  finlay [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:47 pm ]
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Does "make good" really mean succeed? Anyway, you'll have read that in the LCK. (It was the first time I'd ever seen "make" and "good" next to each other, so I didn't quite understand what was what)

I've heard it since then to mean something more like pay up, or keep to one's promises – you would "make good on a promise" or a debt.

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Author:  Thry [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:22 pm ]
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Author:  Chuma [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:01 pm ]
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Cromulant: Yes, my guess is any such changes in English are quite minor, not enough to affect succinctness noticeably.

One thing I've heard is that English speakers tend to me more accepting of people speaking with foreign accents, since they're so used to it. But that's more of a social change than a linguistic one.

JH: I suspect the morpheme-piling of Esperanto really does make it significantly easier to learn - but I can't prove that, of course. It's important to know what your goal is; the goal of Esperanto is learnability, because it's meant as an auxiliary language, so it probably wouldn't be suitable as a first language. (Altho people manage, apparently.) With my conlang, I'm not overly concerned with learnability; I try to make it a suitable first language, basically. (That seems to be what Ithkuil does, too.)

I would say bound morphemes usually have strict regulations on what they can be bound to. So is "'s" in "he's here" a bound morpheme? Maybe. We can also have zero-syllable pronouns, for example - French does that, doesn't it? I think they're usually called particles, I don't think they're generally seen as bound morphemes. But what do I know.

Author:  Ollock [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:38 pm ]
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Author:  Rodlox [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:54 pm ]
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Author:  Thry [ Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:36 am ]
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Author:  Astraios [ Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:55 am ]
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