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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:12 pm 
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@Eandil: You should draw diagrams and illustrations to make your stuff easier to understand.

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Eandil, I suggested your magic system implies a world without entropy because in Earth's universe, and presumably many Earth-like conworlds, entropy cannot be reversed. Hawking explains it well in A Brief History of Time. I'll try here.

In short, there are infinitely more disordered states than ordered states. Imagine all the atoms in a tea cup. There is only one possible arrangement of those atoms which forms a whole tea cup, whereas there are an infinite number of arrangements which don't.

It has been demonstrated that the amount of energy waste produced in the creation of an ordered state will always be greater than the order produced. For example, if you hand-crafted a teacup (thereby creating order), your simply exuding body heat would have created quadrillions of times more disorder in the universe than the order you created by crafting the cup.

Because your magic system implies things about order and chaos, and particularly because you stipulate that either can "win," this implies that your magic system doesn't apply to a universe with entropy.

Thanks for the answers to all the other questions. I understand now.


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Also, take the example of life itself. The genetic code is a molecule which, let's say (for simplicity's sake) intends to create an order. Even if the total entropy of the universe, the multiverse, the cosmos, etc. whatever cannot be reversed, that doesn't prevent life from being ordered in the meanwhile, reversing "local" entropy. You and me everyday eat and drink so that our biological structures mantain their order. However, this attempt at order does not prevent entropy from existing in our universe.


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I do understand what you're saying and doing now. My confusion came from not recognizing that you were arbitrarily assigning words and values. I thought you were saying that chaos and order in the real world were this way and that way. Because of course, eating and drinking in Earth's universe does indeed produce more entropy in the form of body heat than order in the form of maintaining health, but a conworld can work differently.


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I've been thinking about a magic system lately...

Magic can be performed by communicating with spirits. These spirits require payment to do things for humans. Payment can be things like gold, certain plants, etc., or in the case of evil spirits, human blood or whole humans. It is not known why the spirits want these things.

There are also wizards, people who have an innate ability to do magic and do not need to communicate with spirits.

I've also thought about a magical language...maybe you would need to use this language to communicate with spirits.

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