I put mine up in January, but my language is totally different now, so I better go change it.Ghost wrote:
How many people have put their lang up on http://www.langmaker.com. I have, it should be on the list soon.
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I speak a Romace language and Esperanto doesn't seems to me very 'Romance'; it reminds me of a kind of Eastern Europe/Balkan language, don't ask me why... (this is absolutely subjective, of course).valinta wrote:Esperato sounds too Romance to be an international language. Amusing how the only attempts at such things I've heard of are done by Europeans, and they all sound like Romance languages. Zamenhof wasn't nearly creative enough for my taste.
I agree with you: Zamenhof wasn't nearly creative enough.... I think one of the main problems of Esperanto is that it doesn't have a mythology... if Esperanto had a mythology (invented, of course), it would had more acceptance, maybe.... Look at Quenya and Sindarin; they are great langs and they have great mythologies behind. I prefer Quenya as an auxlang instead of Esperanto...
Well, maybe the main problem of Esperanto is that sounds ugly for a lot of people and it's too 'recognizable'... too indoeuropean.
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Well, the creator was a native speaker of Polish.Izopiru wrote:I speak a Romace language and Esperanto doesn't seems to me very 'Romance'; it reminds me of a kind of Eastern Europe/Balkan language, don't ask me why...
That was Zamenhof's intention.Izopiru wrote:Well, maybe the main problem of Esperanto is that sounds ugly for a lot of people and it's too 'recognizable'... too indoeuropean.
Why? I think is better to base a worlwide auxlang on more than one linguistic family.Xeon wrote:That was Zamenhof's intention.Izopiru wrote:Well, maybe the main problem of Esperanto is that sounds ugly for a lot of people and it's too 'recognizable'... too indoeuropean.
Un llapis mai dibuixa sense una mà.
If he wanted it to be as Indo-European as it is, he shouldn't have tried to pass it off as an "international language."Izopiru wrote:Why? I think is better to base a worlwide auxlang on more than one linguistic family.Xeon wrote:That was Zamenhof's intention.Izopiru wrote:Well, maybe the main problem of Esperanto is that sounds ugly for a lot of people and it's too 'recognizable'... too indoeuropean.
Does anybody know of an "international" auxlang that isn't primarily IE-based? I'm curious.
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Heh, I was looking through Langmaker's conlang list a couple days ago, and it seemed every other lang on the list was an auxlang based on Esperanto...
It's been done so many times. What's the fun in reinventing that particular wheel?
It's been done so many times. What's the fun in reinventing that particular wheel?
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He had covered most of Europe as well as most of the countries founded by people of European descent in other parts of the world- back then, in the opinion of most of the people in these countries, that was enough to qualify as "international".valinta wrote:If he wanted it to be as Indo-European as it is, he shouldn't have tried to pass it off as an "international language."
did you send enough shit to guarantee victory?
True, but there's people today who still want it to be the international language. That would be kind of like giving European imperialists the last laugh (if they haven't already had it with English), eh?Raphael wrote:He had covered most of Europe as well as most of the countries founded by people of European descent in other parts of the world- back then, in the opinion of most of the people in these countries, that was enough to qualify as "international".valinta wrote:If he wanted it to be as Indo-European as it is, he shouldn't have tried to pass it off as an "international language."
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Well, it's following is probably somewhere <2, but there was this guy on the conlang list (which stopped being an auxlang list when the auxlang list was created so the non-auxlanger conlangers could be left in peace, tho' I guess for questions on grammar etc. the conlang list is a resource for the more intellectual amateur auxlangers) who made a fennougric (as far as grammar) auxlang with, iirc, the vocabulary not derived from any language at all, but rather generated from scratch. It was called Uusisuom.valinta wrote:If he wanted it to be as Indo-European as it is, he shouldn't have tried to pass it off as an "international language."Izopiru wrote:Why? I think is better to base a worlwide auxlang on more than one linguistic family.Xeon wrote:That was Zamenhof's intention.Izopiru wrote:Well, maybe the main problem of Esperanto is that sounds ugly for a lot of people and it's too 'recognizable'... too indoeuropean.
Does anybody know of an "international" auxlang that isn't primarily IE-based? I'm curious.
Of course, FU is as close you can come to IE without being IE, or perhaps not.
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Depends on your definition of Indo-European. If you include Anatolian in IE, then it's probably FU/Uralic (I once read where it was South Caucasian, but I've never seen any evidence for or against that). If you separate Anatolian out, then it's obviously Anatolian.valinta wrote:New Finnish?Miekko wrote:It was called Uusisuom.
Of course, FU is as close you can come to IE without being IE, or perhaps not.
If Finno-Ugric isn't the closest to IE, what is? (I'm not making any assertions or asking anyone in particular)
Of course these are just of the families that are represented today. There were likely many closer to IE, but they got swallowed up by the Indo-Iranian hordes.
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My guess would be that Zamenhof made Esperanto IE because when he lived, the Europeans ruled the world and almost noone at thet time wound ever dream of that the colonial rule would fall...
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Indeed, if 'international' is taken to mean 'between nations' then something only needs to be spoken in two different countries to qualify as such.Raphael wrote:He had covered most of Europe as well as most of the countries founded by people of European descent in other parts of the world- back then, in the opinion of most of the people in these countries, that was enough to qualify as "international".valinta wrote:If he wanted it to be as Indo-European as it is, he shouldn't have tried to pass it off as an "international language."
I have a theory about auxlangs. One day, everyone will speak one. However, nobody will speak the same one.
Also, if Wikipedia is to be believed, although he spoke several languages, only one of them (Hebrew) was non-Indo-European. Could have had quite a bearing on how Esperanto turned out.Skrivihop wrote:My guess would be that Zamenhof made Esperanto IE because when he lived, the Europeans ruled the world and almost no one at thet time wound ever dream of that the colonial rule would fall...
I find it interesting that although this thread is in the 'Almea' forum, none of the posts appearing in the 'Topic Review' actually have anything to do with Mark's conworld ...
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Lol. It's me back in the day.Turtlehead wrote:WHAT ABOUT INTERLINGUA? THAT LANGUAGE WOULD WORK
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Its the 666 thread. Maybe the top 100 Langmakers are the sign of the beast.
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