For a Newcomer to Almea
For a Newcomer to Almea
Embarrasingly, I must admit I haven't read much of VV. In fact, the stuff I have read was such a long time I might as well have read none of it. So... for me, and anyone else who's a relative newcomer to Almea, in what order should I read the pages? What's best to start with and what should I leave until last?
Thanks,
Zak
Thanks,
Zak
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I'll answer my opinion: the atlas. i spent months reading through all that! though make sure you have a decent resolution to get the commentary in.Ghost wrote:Embarrasingly, I must admit I haven't read much of VV. In fact, the stuff I have read was such a long time I might as well have read none of it. So... for me, and anyone else who's a relative newcomer to Almea, in what order should I read the pages? What's best to start with and what should I leave until last?
Thanks,
Zak
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Re: For a Newcomer to Almea
Months? How did that take you months? I did it over the course of a friday evening and a saturday. Maybe I'm just crazy and do things until a finish them (though, I highly doubt that's true in most respects)Warmaster wrote:I'll answer my opinion: the atlas. i spent months reading through all that! though make sure you have a decent resolution to get the commentary in.Ghost wrote:Embarrasingly, I must admit I haven't read much of VV. In fact, the stuff I have read was such a long time I might as well have read none of it. So... for me, and anyone else who's a relative newcomer to Almea, in what order should I read the pages? What's best to start with and what should I leave until last?
Thanks,
Zak
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I'd lay off words like "exude" and "aura" (especially in the same sentence) in order to +1 your machoness.[/quote]
Re: For a Newcomer to Almea
There's a reason the culture test and Visitor's Guide are at the top of the page, you know.Ghost wrote:Embarrasingly, I must admit I haven't read much of VV. In fact, the stuff I have read was such a long time I might as well have read none of it. So... for me, and anyone else who's a relative newcomer to Almea, in what order should I read the pages? What's best to start with and what should I leave until last?
After that, the drilldown is designed to be a short introduction to the planet, and to Verduria in particular.
And after that, it depends on what you like. With this crowd, it's usually the languages. For outsiders, the stories may be more accessible. And I can't fault Warmaster's choice of the atlas.
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i did say months for a reason - i kept rereading it.
Then i finally went through the count of years, which was very good fun as well. i also printed off effect/counter effect to read on the bus. i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)
Then i finally went through the count of years, which was very good fun as well. i also printed off effect/counter effect to read on the bus. i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)
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i didn't say free, i'm very willing to pay cause i know the content will be good. and if self publishing is the way you have to go, well, i'll still buy it!zompist wrote:Start saving your money. If I can't find a publisher I intend to self-publish Babblers, but not to distribute it free...Warmaster wrote:i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)
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If it was self-published, would it make it to Europe? Or would we have to order it from America?Warmaster wrote:i didn't say free, i'm very willing to pay cause i know the content will be good. and if self publishing is the way you have to go, well, i'll still buy it!zompist wrote:Start saving your money. If I can't find a publisher I intend to self-publish Babblers, but not to distribute it free...Warmaster wrote:i desprately want more stories though! (hint at babblers)
How many publishers have you tried, Mark?
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I don't know yet what distribution channels are realistic. Whatever happens, I'm sure it will be orderable through my site.Ghost wrote:If it was self-published, would it make it to Europe? Or would we have to order it from America?
All the ones that accept unagented submissions, plus a few agents.How many publishers have you tried, Mark?
I was hoping to use my between-jobs time to get an agent, but the time got eaten up by house projects and moving. I aim to get back to it once things settle down.
I've been meaning to ask you. (Maybe I've already asked this, but if so, I've forgotten, sorry!) Have you tried publishing excerpts of the MS? One common way to give a book more "weight" when you send it to a publisher is to release pieces of it in small journals -- that way, it's already got some publishing history behind it when it lands an the editor's desk, and they're a lot likelier to actually read it.zompist wrote:All the ones that accept unagented submissions, plus a few agents.
Oh THAT'S why I was on hiatus. Right. Hiatus Mode re-engaged.
I know this might sound weird, but have you tried submitting it to publishers outside the US? IIRC Brian Stableford couldn't get published in the UK when he started out so he sent it to the US (or possibly Canada, I forget) and publishers there virtually snatched the manuscript out of his hand. Same story with Katharine Kerr, I think, only the other way round.zompist wrote:All the ones that accept unagented submissions, plus a few agents.How many publishers have you tried, Mark?
Naturally, if you do approach a UK publisher first and get accepted that means we'd get Babblers over here first, which would be a Very Good Thing
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Seconded! its rare we get anything first, but to get babblers would be supremely good.Dewrad wrote:I know this might sound weird, but have you tried submitting it to publishers outside the US? IIRC Brian Stableford couldn't get published in the UK when he started out so he sent it to the US (or possibly Canada, I forget) and publishers there virtually snatched the manuscript out of his hand. Same story with Katharine Kerr, I think, only the other way round.zompist wrote:All the ones that accept unagented submissions, plus a few agents.How many publishers have you tried, Mark?
Naturally, if you do approach a UK publisher first and get accepted that means we'd get Babblers over here first, which would be a Very Good Thing
of course, i will be willing to wait
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