Flaidish 7 and "flaid"

vec · Post by **vec** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:14 am

How do you prounounce 7 at the beginning of a word, and how is "flaid" prounounced exactly?

Dudicon · Post by **Dudicon** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:17 am

<7> is pronounced as a glottal stop everywhere, and the word "Flaid" is pronounced /fl{d/, as in "plaid."

Whimemsz · Post by **Whimemsz** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:12 pm

Dudicon wrote:<7> is pronounced as a glottal stop everywhere, and the word "Flaid" is pronounced /fl{d/, as in "plaid."

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always thought it was /flejd/! And now I know that it's because for my entire life I've mis-pronounced "plaid" as /plejd/! Crap!

Aurora Rossa · Post by **Aurora Rossa** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:25 pm

I thought it was /flaid/!

pharazon · Post by **pharazon** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:44 pm

Whimemsz wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I always thought it was /flejd/! And now I know that it's because for my entire life I've mis-pronounced "plaid" as /plejd/! Crap!

Eddy the Great wrote:I thought it was /flaid/!

That's what you get for not reading the Flaidish page well enough.

Space Dracula · Post by **Space Dracula** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:47 pm

I also read /flejd/.

I am wearing plaid right now. ("Lounge pants", AKA "pajamas, but the pants part only", aka "pyjamas, but the trousers part only".)

Whimemsz · Post by **Whimemsz** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:23 pm

pharazon wrote:That's what you get for not reading the Flaidish page well enough.

AHEM:

I wrote:for my entire life I've mis-pronounced "plaid" as /plejd/!

pharazon · Post by **pharazon** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:28 pm

Whimemsz wrote:
pharazon wrote:That's what you get for not reading the Flaidish page well enough.
AHEM:

I wrote:for my entire life I've mis-pronounced "plaid" as /plejd/!

AHEM:

Mark's Flaidish page wrote:(ai) is always /?/ and (au) is always /o/.
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Flaid /fl?d/ rhymes with 'plaid', not 'played'.

Whimemsz · Post by **Whimemsz** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:34 pm

***LINGUO-LABIAL TRILL***

Shm Jay · Post by **Shm Jay** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:37 pm

Whimemsz wrote:***LINGUO-LABIAL TRILL***

A rectal egressive might be more effective.

That sounds like the beginning of a chillin? rap song.

Too bad I loathe rap.

Whimemsz · Post by **Whimemsz** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:37 pm

Gross...

Shm Jay · Post by **Shm Jay** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:39 pm

Whimemsz wrote:Gross...

You have to go back and read my edited comment.

Whimemsz · Post by **Whimemsz** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:42 pm

Shm Jay wrote:
Whimemsz wrote:Gross...
You have to go back and read my edited comment.

<snort>!

pharazon · Post by **pharazon** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:42 pm

Shm Jay wrote:
Whimemsz wrote:Gross...
You have to go back and read my edited comment.

Aw, don't censor yourself! I'd like to know what could make Whimemsz himself, the master of disgusting wordplay, say "Gross...".

A rectal egressive might be more effective.

I'll leave everyone to ruminate on the possibilities/connotations of the ingressive form.

Shm Jay · Post by **Shm Jay** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:48 pm

pharazon wrote: Aw, don't censor yourself! I'd like to know what could make Whimemsz himself, the master of disgusting wordplay, say "Gross...".

I didn?t censor myself! I just added the second sentence.

Anyway, what would be most effective would be an open, lax, unvoiced, whispery egressive, not a voiced or creaky one.

Shm Jay · Post by **Shm Jay** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:49 pm

pharazon wrote: I'll leave everyone to ruminate on the possibilities/connotations of the ingressive form.

You could hire yourself out to certain types of bizarre fetish movies as a vacuum cleaner, especially if they spray coloured smoke in the air.

Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:08 pm

Mark did correct us about that pronounciation ages ago, even before he put the grammar up. i must say i also mispronounced it as well (that said, i've always visualised aidan as /aid@n/ not /eid@n/

Jar Jar Binks · Post by **Jar Jar Binks** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:35 am

Warmaster wrote:Mark did correct us about that pronounciation ages ago, even before he put the grammar up. i must say i also mispronounced it as well (that said, i've always visualised aidan as /aid@n/ not /eid@n/

Auralised, no?

Nuntar · Post by **Nuntar** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:33 am

Mark's Flaidish page wrote:(ai) is always /?/ and (au) is always /o/.
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Flaid /fl?d/ rhymes with 'plaid', not 'played'.

Well, in that case, it's Mark's fault for choosing such a silly example word. I'd never heard it used once in my life. Why couldn't he have said Flaid rhymes with "mad" or "dad" or any of the dozens of other words ending in /æd/?

Salmoneus · Post by **Salmoneus** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:18 am

Like ad, bad, cad, dad, fad, gad, had, jad, lad, mad, pad, rad, sad, tad, yad, and wad(ok, so maybe not wad).

If you don't mind being archaic, you can add oad and xad; various british dialects yield vad and zad, while US slang supplies nad. There's no ead, iad, kad, qad or uad, but there is eadi, and qadi, and a prefix kad-.

Does anyone know of a spelling where any letter in the alphabet can be used as the initial and still yield a word in the OED?

Nuntar · Post by **Nuntar** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:10 pm

I'm pretty sure there are none. Not many words begin with X, and the only plausible short ones, xal and xel, both fail with other letters.

Dudicon · Post by **Dudicon** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:14 pm

I had always pronounced "Aidan" as /aid{n/, until I learned it was a real name and turned off my linguistic receptors when reading it.

And it seems obvious to me that Mark used "plaid" as the example word because the transcription of the /{/ sound is the same as in "Flaid."

Salmoneus · Post by **Salmoneus** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:17 pm

-u is only 2 or 3 away.
There is no gu or zu, and fu only occurs in chinese phrases, never by itself.

-ie is 5 away: no iie, oie, qie, xie or zie.

Nuntar · Post by **Nuntar** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:22 pm

Dudicon wrote:I had always pronounced "Aidan" as /aid{n/, until I learned it was a real name and turned off my linguistic receptors when reading it.

And it seems obvious to me that Mark used "plaid" as the example word because the transcription of the /{/ sound is the same as in "Flaid."

You don't say.

Not really worth all the bother, though, was it?

And I pronounced Aidan correctly... because Aidan Lynch is a character in Goblet of Fire, and it doesn't have the same ring to it with /aI/.

con quesa · Post by **con quesa** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:22 pm

Did anyone pronounce it as /flejId/, like me?