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Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 3:32 pm

nah, the sevens are good. they remind me of Old English manusicripts where a 7 like sympol was an abreviation for "and" so you've got one vote for the 7's Mark!

Post by **zompist** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 6:21 pm

con quesa wrote:By the way, I would also like to see the full text of Jeerio Tries to Find a Job , prefably published online. Do you have any plans for that?

Sometime, probably. I'm tempted to adapt it, however... some parts are pretty silly.

jburke · Post by **jburke** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 6:35 pm

zompist wrote:
con quesa wrote:By the way, I would also like to see the full text of Jeerio Tries to Find a Job , prefably published online. Do you have any plans for that?
Sometime, probably. I'm tempted to adapt it, however... some parts are pretty silly.

I'd like to see an adaptation; and, while you're at, how about a sample of BABBLERS?

(Just a little peak?)

Drydic · Post by **Drydic** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:39 pm

Zomp has put up a small part, in the Secret History of Verduria. He has also said that he won't put up any more, because he still wants to be published on dead trees.

Shm Jay · Post by **Shm Jay** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 9:55 am

Why would anyone have felt the necessity to borrow the word scagantos?

Post by **zompist** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:00 pm

Shm Jay wrote:Why would anyone have felt the necessity to borrow the word scagantos?

Same reason as English borrowed the equivalent word from Latin: the foreignness cools down the temperature of the word.

Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:04 pm

zompist wrote:

Verdurian males probably average 5' 6" (apologies to metric users); flaids average about a foot taller. (Ilii average a couple inches taller than flaids, but are much more heavyset.)

I just noticed this. i'm nearly as tall as a flaid!

Actually, i expected both measurments to be higher, no matter, just an observation.

Xephyr · Post by **Xephyr** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:52 pm

I thought Flaids were midgits!

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:13 pm

Warmaster wrote:
zompist wrote:

Verdurian males probably average 5' 6" (apologies to metric users); flaids average about a foot taller. (Ilii average a couple inches taller than flaids, but are much more heavyset.)

I just noticed this. i'm nearly as tall as a flaid!

Actually, i expected both measurments to be higher, no matter, just an observation.

Pre-modern peoples were often shorter on average than their present-day descendants; modern nutrition and medical care have led to an increase in health and growth rates.

As an example, the Vikings are often pictured as hulking warriors, but archeological remains reveal an average height of a bit over 5'7'' for men and 5'2'' for women--somewhat less than that of present-day Scandinavians. (On the other hand, the leading warriors may have been generally larger, and the peoples they raided may have tended to be smaller on average.)

[EDIT: The above information is taken from The Vikings by Else Roesdahl. My apologies for not including the citation earlier.]

Exceptions are always possible, of course--two historical rulers noted for their height are Charlemagne and Peter the Great.

p@,
Glenn

Iscun · Post by **Iscun** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:16 pm

zompist wrote:Verdurian males probably average 5' 6" (apologies to metric users); flaids average about a foot taller. (Ilii average a couple inches taller than flaids, but are much more heavyset.)

Hm, so, would that mean that ilii are tall but stout-looking at the same time?

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:35 pm

Iscun wrote:
zompist wrote:Verdurian males probably average 5' 6" (apologies to metric users); flaids average about a foot taller. (Ilii average a couple inches taller than flaids, but are much more heavyset.)
Hm, so, would that mean that ilii are tall but stout-looking at the same time?

So it would appear from the description in Mark's article on "The Descent of Les?asi" in Virtual Verduria, which reads as follows:

Ilii are larger and heavier than humans (indeed, an iliu female is likely to outweigh a human male). [...] Like many sea creatures, they tend to be thick in the middle, as an adaptation to the cold of the depths; they are muscular, but the muscles are buried below a layer of fat. However, they do not at all move like a fat human; their movements are powerful and graceful.

The same article has the following to say about the flaids:

The flaids (Urestu magnocapitus) are related to uesti; they are taller, with large flat heads and large feet.

(As Jeerio has shown us, BTW.

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The Verdurian Culture Test also mentions the flaids' height:

You consider the flaids up in Flora to be pleasant, solid people. You'd think twice before taking advantage of them-- they are awfully big.

The ktuvoki are described as "half again as tall as a man," which could make them close to eight feet tall(:!:)--larger than either flaids or ilii. The gdeoni and kushaki were allegedly even taller (especially in myth), while the icelani, elcari, and murtani are all shorter than humans. Mark noted once that the trolls (which may well also be merely mythical) were said to be equal to humans (uesti) in size.

p@,
Glenn

Iscun · Post by **Iscun** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:59 pm

Ah

I was under the impression that they were slender, as depicted in the illustration in The Descent of Les?asi.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:49 pm

Iscun wrote:Ah

I was under the impression that they were slender, as depicted in the illustration in The Descent of Les?asi.

The iliu in the illustration is not exactly skinny, but you're right--she's not that heavyset, either. And the Civ2 iliu icon used on this board is a fairly slender one as well; I suspect Mark didn't want to draw ilii that would be considered unattractively fat by human standards. Perhaps we could consider the ones in the illustrations ("iliu-strations?") to be particularly svelte specimens.

p@,
Glenn

Post by **zompist** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:05 am

I do intend to redraw the iliu maiden someday. There's so many things that aren't illustrated at all, however, that it's not a very high priority.

Iscun · Post by **Iscun** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 9:39 am

My mental picture of Almea gets contradicted all the time!

Before I really read anything about them, I thought the ilii were slender. I also first imagined elkari to be taller and broader than humans. I misunderstood the discription of ktuvoki being 'half again as tall as a man,' so I imagined them being very short. And I pronounced ''flaid' as 'flayd' up until the Flaidish grammar was posted!

Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:37 am

I know that humans were once shorter, but its still strange to read that a creature that is massive to them was only slightly taller than myself, that said, i don't know very many people who are taller than me

Post by **zompist** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:17 pm

If it's a consolation, remember the properties of the bell curve. The flaids only average to a height a few inches taller than yours. So plenty of them are much taller; and you'd definitely feel like a shorty if you visited Syxesteer.

Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:15 pm

zompist wrote:If it's a consolation, remember the properties of the bell curve. The flaids only average to a height a few inches taller than yours. So plenty of them are much taller; and you'd definitely feel like a shorty if you visited Syxesteer.

That would be an experience indeed

but i'd rather go to skouras for some reason

insumaro · Post by **insumaro** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 11:59 pm

zompist wrote:Since I don't really like inventing roots (and yet did that aplenty for Elkar?l), I usually borrow vocabulary from all over. For Flaidish I decided to steal most of the vocabulary from a single source. See who can find what it is...

We never found out the source!!

Post by **zompist** » Sat Aug 23, 2003 12:40 am

Pentekonter wrote:
zompist wrote:Since I don't really like inventing roots (and yet did that aplenty for Elkar?l), I usually borrow vocabulary from all over. For Flaidish I decided to steal most of the vocabulary from a single source. See who can find what it is...
We never found out the source!!

It did get discovered, actually, but in another thread. It's Hungarian, which also supplied a couple of grammatical points.

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:03 pm

Teehee. I just noticed this:

The Flaidish Grammar wrote: max n rabbit

Which is funny also because it's one of the first words in Flaidish we ever found out about, and I've only just noticed the connection.

Aurora Rossa · Post by **Aurora Rossa** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:09 pm

The title looks like 1337.

DF · Post by DF » Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:04 pm

So Haleza Grise wrote:Teehee. I just noticed this:

The Flaidish Grammar wrote: max n rabbit
Which is funny also because it's one of the first words in Flaidish we ever found out about, and I've only just noticed the connection.

Heh, forgive my ignorance, but I don't get it...care to explain?

Aurora Rossa · Post by **Aurora Rossa** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:09 pm

I think it's a videogame reference.

con quesa · Post by **con quesa** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:14 pm

I do intend to redraw the iliu maiden someday. There's so many things that aren't illustrated at all, however, that it's not a very high priority.

Speaking of that, am I the only one who noticed that her eyebrow is drawn partially off her forehead?