Astrology

Shm Jay · Post by **Shm Jay** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:55 pm

Do Verdurians have astrology, or is their equivalent the 7 types of matter? If they have astrology, what is their zodiac? (We need a new form of astrology.)

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:52 pm

That's an excellent question - I've wondered about this too, but, as I've discovered, con-astrology can be an intricate business.

We do know about soa shapa, soa fralina, so mesocrico, etc, but not much else.

Oops - should they even have articles in front of them, or not?

Post by **zompist** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:01 am

There would be no distinction in any Almean culture between astrology and religion... that is, systems of divination or character analysis are part of living belief systems, not half-dead survivals from earlier cultures.

So, though I haven't worked out the Almean constellations or divination based on them, in the Plain the characters and principles involved would be those of Cadhinorian and Cuzeian religion.

Sorry if that's too vague... I'm trying to wrap up my sketch of Meshaism.

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:07 pm

zompist wrote: Sorry if that's too vague... I'm trying to wrap up my sketch of Meshaism.

Squee! You mean for Almean Belief Systems?

Well I don't want to pester you then, and of course I'll probably get to see it eventually, but you have piqued me curiousity

So, I just have one simple question: what kind of god is Me?a? The Wede:i grammar seemed to indicate he/she had some sort of association with the planet I?ira.

Shm Jay · Post by **Shm Jay** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:41 pm

So Haleza Grise wrote:Squee!

Squee? What does that mean? Do you say this often?

Post by **zompist** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:54 pm

So Haleza Grise wrote:So, I just have one simple question: what kind of god is Mes<caron>a? The Wede:i grammar seemed to indicate he/she had some sort of association with the planet Is<caron>ira.

Yes... basic facts:

Axunashin name = Mesha
Wede:i name = Wila:r
gender = male
totemic animal = hawk
element = air
landmark = planet Ishira

The Ezichimi considered Mesha to be the 'god of the Wede:i'-- which was a gross simplification-- and to have been defeated by their own god Inbamu. Mesha in a sense had the last laugh; over the centuries his worship was the more popular, and he was the patron god of Axunai.

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:20 pm

Shm Jay wrote:
So Haleza Grise wrote:Squee!
Squee? What does that mean? Do you say this often?

Well, I type it occasionally. I hardly ever say it.

It's one of those words that seem to eke out an existence solely on the web. As I understand it, it's a nerdish exclamation of joy.

I have no idea where it came from, but I'd like to think it has something to do with the comic of the same name, by Jhonen Vasquez.

Post by **zompist** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:10 am

So Haleza Grise wrote:So, I just have one simple question: what kind of god is Mes<caron>a? The Wede:i grammar seemed to indicate he/she had some sort of association with the planet Is<caron>ira.

Mes<caron>a, huh? You must be thinking of that famous Axunashin hymn, which starts--

Dimiw en rir kie dimiw jurum Mes<caron>a
Enke jurum zi rir kie li dem yunuim jamuim
Dimiw en rir kie dimiw jurum Mes<caron>a
Eyyyy Mes<caron>a

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:40 am

zompist wrote:
So Haleza Grise wrote:So, I just have one simple question: what kind of god is Mes<caron>a? The Wede:i grammar seemed to indicate he/she had some sort of association with the planet Is<caron>ira.
Mes<caron>a, huh? You must be thinking of that famous Axunashin hymn, which starts--

Dimiw en rir kie dimiw jurum Mes<caron>a
Enke jurum zi rir kie li dem yunuim jamuim
Dimiw en rir kie dimiw jurum Mes<caron>a
Eyyyy Mes<caron>a

Teehee.

I wonder if the popularity of such a hymn is what gave the Endajue masters their ideas about the Universal Dance.

Salmoneus · Post by **Salmoneus** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:56 am

So Haleza Grise wrote:
Shm Jay wrote:
So Haleza Grise wrote:Squee!
Squee? What does that mean? Do you say this often?
Well, I type it occasionally. I hardly ever say it.

It's one of those words that seem to eke out an existence solely on the web. As I understand it, it's a nerdish exclamation of joy.

I have no idea where it came from, but I'd like to think it has something to do with the comic of the same name, by Jhonen Vasquez.

Squeeing is also what dolphins do when they're happy. At least, that's the term used in McCaffrey's Pern series, which is what I thought of when I saw the word.

doctrellor · Post by **doctrellor** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:43 pm

Well even the Middle Ages, Astronomy was mixed with Astrology almost like a religion...

Just ask Galieo...

For Verdurians, Not sure, what is the technology level, and the "renaissance", how far is it away?, has it started?, what about glass techology

what about optics?

lenses.... without lenses, then telescopes?.. forget it...

So it all depends...