Xurnash, when will it be uploaded

linguofreak · Post by **linguofreak** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:48 pm

Xurnash sounds pretty cool, when do we get to find out more about it?

Dewrad · Post by **Dewrad** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:01 pm

Give the poor man a break, he's only just slogged through the grammar for Old Skourene!

Aszev · Post by **Aszev** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:19 pm

Dewrad has a point.

Curlyjimsam · Post by **Curlyjimsam** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:41 pm

You make it sound as if Zompist conlangs purely for our benefit ... I imagine (and I may be wrong) that the real reason he does it is because he gets some enjoyment out of it ...

I'm sure he'll get around to it at some time, when he feels like it. Don't rush him though. He's only going to start messing things up if you keep bombarding him with "Is it nearly done yet?"

Plus, people like to enjoy things at their own rate.

Warmaster · Post by **Warmaster** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:23 pm

i'm still waiting for Chia-Sha

krinnen · Post by **krinnen** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:27 pm

Curlyjimsam wrote:You make it sound as if Zompist conlangs purely for our benefit ... I imagine (and I may be wrong) that the real reason he does it is because he gets some enjoyment out of it ...

I'm sure he'll get around to it at some time, when he feels like it. Don't rush him though. He's only going to start messing things up if you keep bombarding him with "Is it nearly done yet?"

Plus, people like to enjoy things at their own rate.

And also:Why don't you study all those other languages he's created? I'm sure you can't be THAT fixated on Xurnash...

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:22 pm

And of course, unlike a great many of us,

Zomp has a full-time job and a family, not to mention numerous other interests besides conlanging.

In any case, the Almean languages grammars are so detailed and thorough (and becoming more so) that they are generally worth the wait.

con quesa · Post by **con quesa** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:11 pm

Warmaster wrote:i'm still waiting for Chia-Sha

Eteod?ole. It's all about Eteod?ole.

Delthayre · Post by **Delthayre** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:18 pm

I'd pretty much been in eager waiting for Skourene, now that Mr. Rosenfelder's graced us with that, I feel contented.

Shm Jay · Post by **Shm Jay** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:16 pm

I?m still waiting for the list of Cadhnorian emperors!

linguofreak · Post by **linguofreak** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:14 pm

krinnen wrote:And also:Why don't you study all those other languages he's created? I'm sure you can't be THAT fixated on Xurnash...

Because I've studied them all. Xurnash seems pretty cool, so I'm wondering when it will come out. Will it be the next to come out, or will it be three years down the road?

Jadyndar · Post by **Jadyndar** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:30 pm

linguofreak wrote:Because I've studied them all. Xurnash seems pretty cool, so I'm wondering when it will come out. Will it be the next to come out, or will it be three years down the road?

The answers to those questions need not be different...

So Haleza Grise · Post by **So Haleza Grise** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:20 am

linguofreak wrote:
krinnen wrote:And also:Why don't you study all those other languages he's created? I'm sure you can't be THAT fixated on Xurnash...
Because I've studied them all. Xurnash seems pretty cool, so I'm wondering when it will come out. Will it be the next to come out, or will it be three years down the road?

It's often hard to tell what ordering Almean projects will have past the one that's nearest completion. As a hobby, they don't have a huge degree of planned sequence. Elkar?l, for example, got completed essentially as a sidetrack from the Count of Years. (I think a similar thing applies to Flaidish, too, though I really don't know). Similarly, Old Skourene came about when Zomp expanded the vocabulary of Axunashin.

I suppose a good estimate is that Xurn?sh is close (closer than some other language projects, for example, since it is my understanding that components of the Xurn?sh grammar and lexicon already exist), but then again, Zomp may want to complete materials on Endaju? first, or take up another project (like maybe a list of Cadhinorian Emperors, or of s?pa-manufacturers)

. My prediction, FWIW, is that we won't see an Xurn?sh grammar until more stuff on Endaju? exists, either online or not.

vec · Post by **vec** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:50 am

He already has publisht Axuanashin

Mornche Geddick · Post by **Mornche Geddick** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:43 am

But he's going to do the Learn Axunashin in 10 Easy Lessons.

Serali · Post by **Serali** » Sat May 06, 2006 10:49 am

Mornche Geddick wrote:But he's going to do the Learn Axunashin in 10 Easy Lessons.

What! Ooooooooooooooooh I can't wait!

BGMan · Post by **BGMan** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:08 am

I'd imagine that Xurnash is rather like Axunashin with a simplified noun and verb conjugation system. (To what degree, of course, I have no idea.)

As an aside: I still don't really know how to pronounce "Xurno"... I want to pronounce the X as /S/ but I'm not sure that's right (I do know "Axunashin" = "Aks(h)unashin")

BG

dunomapuka · Post by **dunomapuka** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:03 am

BGMan wrote:As an aside: I still don't really know how to pronounce "Xurno"... I want to pronounce the X as /S/ but I'm not sure that's right (I do know "Axunashin" = "Aks(h)unashin")

The x in Xurno/Xurnásh is a /z/. I'm also eager to see exactly how it's developed from Axunashin...I think Mark said somewhere that it had lost all the noun cases. Just to idly speculate, he might focus on how the syntax works in a more analytical grammar (though only about as analytical as Spanish, maybe)...he's been doing a lot with syntax of late.

Serali · Post by **Serali** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:18 pm

Warmaster wrote:i'm still waiting for Chia-Sha

Me too. I'm dying to see what the writing system looks like.

Post by **zompist** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:00 pm

Serali wrote:
Warmaster wrote:i'm still waiting for Chia-Sha
Me too. I'm dying to see what the writing system looks like.

That one's easy to answer, at least: the Sha languages of the Koranax are written in a derivation of the Xurnese syllabary (they didn't bother with the logograms); the Chia languages of Luduyn are written in Gurdagor script; and Tei is written in Jippirasti script.

Serali · Post by **Serali** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:39 pm

What does the Gurdagor script look like?

Legros · Post by **Legros** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:44 pm

zompist wrote:That one's easy to answer, at least: the Sha languages of the Koranax are written in a derivation of the Xurnese syllabary (they didn't bother with the logograms); the Chia languages of Luduyn are written in Gurdagor script; and Tei is written in Jippirasti script.

Eh eh... like Serbo-Croat, which is written in the Cyrillic alphabet in Serbia and in the Latin alphabet in Serbia, and which (presumably in Muslim Bosnia) was even written in the Arabic alphabet during the Turkish domination.

Serali · Post by **Serali** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:18 pm

Cool!

ghur · Post by **ghur** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:49 pm

Legros wrote:
zompist wrote:That one's easy to answer, at least: the Sha languages of the Koranax are written in a derivation of the Xurnese syllabary (they didn't bother with the logograms); the Chia languages of Luduyn are written in Gurdagor script; and Tei is written in Jippirasti script.
Eh eh... like Serbo-Croat, which is written in the Cyrillic alphabet in Serbia and in the Latin alphabet in Serbia, and which (presumably in Muslim Bosnia) was even written in the Arabic alphabet during the Turkish domination.

Do you mean Latin in Croatia (you have serbia twice)?

dunomapuka · Post by **dunomapuka** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:10 pm

Serali wrote:What does the Gurdagor script look like?

It's a derivative of the script for Old Skourene, but we don't know much about it. The OS page says it's simplified somewhat. I think it says somewhere that the syllable markers have turned into diacritic symbols.

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Xurnash, when will it be uploaded

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